# Omnibus Evil MFers in the news thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 3, 2023, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496 "2023-05-03T11:05:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1901 "2024-10-23T01:39:18Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I think it’s that old saying: “ Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

“Power _tends_ to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

/pedantic

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1902 "2024-10-23T02:13:04Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Would the males from this board become sex rapists/weirdos if they were given a billion bucks?

I volunteer to be the guy who gets a billion dollars and stays the same, sweet guy I’ve always been.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1903 "2024-10-23T02:18:15Z")

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My manservant would put my pants on one leg at a time, just like always.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1904 "2024-10-23T02:20:38Z")

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I can see the cleverly hidden bottle of roofies in your avatar. Nice try “sweet guy”! 😉

> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> My manservant would put my pants on one leg at a time, just like always.

I assume that while you will not be sexually assaulting people after the pants are put on, you’ll still be making gold records?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1905 "2024-10-23T02:24:02Z")

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I can’t figure out how a billionaire CEO is turning people off in the first place. How fucking awful is he behaving in nightclubs to have to force people to do his bidding??

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1906 "2024-10-23T02:28:49Z")

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He’s 60+. His target sexual counterparty is 23. Tough sell without extra special inducements.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1907 "2024-10-23T02:30:04Z")

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Can you clarify which billionaire CEO that is turning off people you are referring to? There are a few…

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1908 "2024-10-23T02:31:22Z")

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He walks into almost any nightclub and lets it be known that he is the billionaire CEO of A&F.  
What do you think will happen?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1909 "2024-10-23T02:34:07Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> But, also sad to think there is an extremely HUGE amount of males that would do this if they had the funds.

Sad to think it as a counter-factual, or as a thought experiment? Because I don’t buy it as a real world estimate.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1910 "2024-10-23T02:44:00Z")

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I have no clue. That’s why I came here to ask this. I have no freaking clue how many males would, and do, sexually abuse people. I’m completely uneducated here, but the percentage of rich people that seem to take advantage seems to be high. I will leave it to others to decide what that means.

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**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1911 "2024-10-23T02:47:14Z")

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What do you think would happen? Do you think he could have anyone he wanted?

Have you spent much time in clubs?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1912 "2024-10-23T02:47:44Z")

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Who would hook up with him?  
Let’s just say it is a meat market out there, and a lot of people like their meat rich and well-aged.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1913 "2024-10-23T03:46:31Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> I’m completely uneducated here, but the percentage of rich people that seem to take advantage seems to be high.

You’re only reading about the ones who do it. There are far, far more who don’t. Your question was how many would do it if they were rich and powerful, and based on how many we know about now, not that many.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1914 "2024-10-23T05:04:36Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> What is it with rich men doing depraved sex shit with vulnerable people? Is it that all men would do this if rich, or is it that rich men tend to have tendencies that led them to be rich but also be depraved?

I would say that throughout history it has been one of the primary motivations for becoming rich and powerful in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1915 "2024-10-23T05:05:10Z")

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Johnny Carson wrote one of those wafer-thin celebrity books titled _Happiness is a Dry Martini,_ a snark on Charles M. Schultz’ _Happiness is a Warm Puppy._ one entry was “happiness is being rich enough to as to be shown something less expensive.”

Mr. Former Abercrombie & Fich, with the pulled skin and bleached teeth and presumably sildena-fueled penis, isn’t rich like that, as are not the wealthy predators under discussion here. Money to help hook oneself up to a dick-milking machine cum social conquest system, as well as all the other sensory overloads that beckons, makes him no better than any meth-head. (You know why they were called “smurfs?” The rush when they hit the pipe blew their blood pressure, bursting the capillaries in their fingers and other extremities; turning them blue.)

Not the “peace of mind” those old E. F. Hutton ads used to promise that came from financial independence. No, someone who can afford a three-hour airplane ride for a three-second orgasm isn’t a winner in life.

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1916 "2024-10-23T09:45:32Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> He’s not aged well. Excessive pederasty will do that to a man.

Yes, moderation is the key.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1917 "2024-10-23T11:25:01Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> What is it with rich men doing depraved sex shit with vulnerable people? Is it that all men would do this if rich, or is it that rich men tend to have tendencies that led them to be rich but also be depraved? Cosby, Trump, Weinstein, Epstein, Diddy, this dude, etc. Would the males from this board become sex rapists/weirdos if they were given a billion bucks?

No, not all wealthy men are evil perverts. It is, however, easier to get away with being evil and depraved for a long time if you have enormous wealth, and wealth makes it easier to exploit the vulnerable.

If these guys weren’t rich as hell they’d still be evil and depraved. The difference is that people who are poor and evil and depraved tend to land in jail sooner. Also, don’t generate the same headlines when they’re caught.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1918 "2024-10-23T12:02:19Z")

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Speaking of evil and depraved people who aren’t billionaires……  
And kudos to the brave girl!

> **[Colorado girl, 8, fights back against kidnapper in clown mask, police say](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/colorado-girl-8-fights-back-kidnapper-clown-mask-police-say-rcna176691)**
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> Thomas Gallegos, 56, was accused of a late-night break-in at the family's home days after he helped install their washer and dryer, authorities said.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1919 "2024-10-23T12:31:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Who would hook up with him?  
> Let’s just say it is a meat market out there, and a lot of people like their meat rich and well-aged.

As I mentioned in the Diddy thread, for this kind of person, if they’re willingly throwing themselves at him and enthusiastically joining in the games then it’s no thrill. It’s about the _forcing_ people to bend to his will.

> [@needscoffee](#):
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> You’re only reading about the ones who do it. There are far, far more who don’t. Your question was how many would do it if they were rich and powerful, and based on how many we know about now, not that many.

Plus there are _other_ morally “evil” things that wealthy or powerful individuals may get away with. We’re just more personally shocked about _this_ particular angle.

> [@Broomstick](#):
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> It is, however, easier to get away with being evil and depraved for a long time if you have enormous wealth, and wealth makes it easier to exploit the vulnerable.
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> If these guys weren’t rich as hell they’d still be evil and depraved. The difference is that people who are poor and evil and depraved tend to land in jail sooner

Or get taken care of by “personal justice” on the street and then we only count them as another common crime casualty.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-evil-mfers-in-the-news-thread/983496/1920 "2024-10-23T23:33:19Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> This is pure evil.

[a little more on this story](https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/french-rape-trial-gisele-pelicot-1.7360658)

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> France may introduce changes to its rape law to include consent for the first time, as a result of the trial, which has challenged the limits of existing legislation and prompted some leading politicians to call for change.
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> France’s new Justice Minister Didier Migaud recently said he is in favour of updating the law, as has President Emmanuel Macron, after France blocked the inclusion of a consent-based rape definition in a European directive in 2023.
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> “I believe it is beyond understanding for our fellow citizens to refuse to include consent in the definition of rape,” Migaud told lawmakers earlier this month.
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> French criminal law defines rape as a penetrative act or oral sex act committed on someone using “violence, coercion, threat or surprise.” It makes no clear mention of the need for a partner’s consent and prosecutors must prove the intention to rape to secure a guilty verdict, five legal experts told Reuters.
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> France has been reluctant to move away from this definition, and it’s a hotly debated issue. Some legal experts and women’s rights activists say consent puts scrutiny on the victim’s behaviour and words, rather than the accused, and that a person can say “yes” without actually wanting to.

It does raise a valid point. If she seems to say yes, the perpetrator can claim that there was consent. Rape is often a complicated situation that is difficult to define using strict legal code, and it is not always possible for both parties to be certain as to whether a truly consensual act is taking place.

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