# Omnibus Pit Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 23, 2009, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472 "2009-03-23T16:42:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/61 "2009-03-25T18:46:24Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Here is a post from that thread: > > **brazil84** I have no idea who you are but I do know you are using dishonest tactics, **Sage Rat** posted this excellent rebuttal to your graph You are 100% wrong. Like **GIGOBuster** , you have completely missed the point. **Sage Rat** is being dishonest too because he is not responding to the point I actually made. I posted those graphs for one and only one reason, which is to show that the rate of temperature increase in roughly the first half of the 20th century is approximately the same as the rate of temperature increase in roughly the latter half of the 20th century. **Sage Rat** and **GIGOBuster** both responded as if I were showing those graphs for some other reason. **Sage Rat** because he is dishonest. **GIGOBuster** because he is stupid (as far as I can tell). > [@](#): > > and your only response is to Pit him? I don’t engage with people who won’t follow my rules of debate. For the most part, this saves me the trouble of responding to habitually dishonest people such as **Sage Rat** and stupid people such as **GIGOBuster**. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/62 "2009-03-25T19:01:39Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > You are 100% wrong. Like **GIGOBuster** , you have completely missed the point. **Sage Rat** is being dishonest too because he is not responding to the point I actually made. > > I posted those graphs for one and only one reason, which is to show that the rate of temperature increase in roughly the first half of the 20th century is approximately the same as the rate of temperature increase in roughly the latter half of the 20th century. > > **Sage Rat** and **GIGOBuster** both responded as if I were showing those graphs for some other reason. **Sage Rat** because he is dishonest. **GIGOBuster** because he is stupid (as far as I can tell). > > I don’t engage with people who won’t follow my rules of debate. For the most part, this saves me the trouble of responding to habitually dishonest people such as **Sage Rat** and stupid people such as **GIGOBuster**. When not even critics of my grammar are jumping here to defend your “flawless logic”, normal (or I should say humble) minds should begin to wonder if they are wrong. Your demands that I should be considered an idiot just have no support from anyone that we would consider to be serious. And since you will only get your wish of banishing me in your site and in your mind, I have to conclude that \*\*brasil84 \*\*is just a sad Nowhere man. ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/dHLjYBsl2zA/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/dHLjYBsl2zA?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/63 "2009-03-25T19:25:20Z")
And BTW your “one and only” reason for showing the graphs was just a meaningless red herring. Dismissed as just a misleading point. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/64 "2009-03-25T19:26:05Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I don’t engage with people who won’t follow my rules of debate. And here they are folks. The **brazil84** [Rules of Debate.](http://brazil84.wordpress.com/my-rules-of-debate/) I love Rule 8: > [@](#): > > _Meta-Debate._ I’m not going to waste a lot of time arguing over peoples’ debate tactics. If I sense things are headed that way, I will probably cut things off. Your creation of this thread would seem to suggest otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/65 "2009-03-25T19:26:20Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > You are 100% wrong. Like **GIGOBuster** , you have completely missed the point. **Sage Rat** is being dishonest too because he is not responding to the point I actually made. > > I posted those graphs for one and only one reason, which is to show that the rate of temperature increase in roughly the first half of the 20th century is approximately the same as the rate of temperature increase in roughly the latter half of the 20th century. I had already responded (post 82) to your point (post 80) by the time you brought up those two graphs (post 83). Nothing remained to be done except to point out the inherent dishonesty of them. Pitting me for not responding to your point _because you ignored it_ is rather silly. Like I said earlier in this thread, [this is not a vast leap of logic](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10964670&postcount=10). Your inability to understand really simple ideas that are obvious to even small children–while impressive–makes it rather pointless to try and point anything on any subject out to you, like modifiers in basic English or understanding a recorded history of events in a dialogue, but still one would hope. I truly fear for anyone who has to deal with you on a daily basis. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/66 "2009-03-25T19:27:34Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > I don’t engage with people who won’t follow my rules of debate. You are a child. To all else - could someone please give me a valid reason why anyone would engage brazil84 further? Even posters on his side of the argument are saying his approach to any sort of discourse is unconstructive. Seriously - why would anyone respond to him? He comes across to me as a childish and immature person with zero integrity. What could possibly be gained from trying to follow his made up rules and dealing with his petty little tantrums? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/67 "2009-03-25T19:38:43Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > To all else - could someone please give me a valid reason why anyone would engage brazil84 further? Even posters on his side of the argument are saying his approach to any sort of discourse is unconstructive. Seriously - why would anyone respond to him? He comes across to me as a childish and immature person with zero integrity. What could possibly be gained from trying to follow his made up rules and dealing with his petty little tantrums? He willfully spreads ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/68 "2009-03-25T19:41:08Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > He willfully spreads ignorance. No, he’s a decoy. He prevents you from fighting ignorance elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/69 "2009-03-25T19:59:32Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > You are a child. In a sense, you are 100% correct. If I were more mature, I probably wouldn’t waste time debating stuff on the internet. As noted above, arguing on the internet is a bit like competing in the Special Olympics. (We’re allowed to joke about the Special Olympics, right?) ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/70 "2009-03-26T09:14:40Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > You are 100% wrong. Like **GIGOBuster** , you have completely missed the point. **Sage Rat** is being dishonest too because he is not responding to the point I actually made. > > I posted those graphs for one and only one reason, which is to show that the rate of temperature increase in roughly the first half of the 20th century is approximately the same as the rate of temperature increase in roughly the latter half of the 20th century. > > **Sage Rat** and **GIGOBuster** both responded as if I were showing those graphs for some other reason. **Sage Rat** because he is dishonest. **GIGOBuster** because he is stupid (as far as I can tell). > > I don’t engage with people who won’t follow my rules of debate. For the most part, this saves me the trouble of responding to habitually dishonest people such as **Sage Rat** and stupid people such as **GIGOBuster**. You have your own rules of debate?? My, aren’t we a precious one. Grow up. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/71 "2009-03-26T10:10:50Z")
> [@martu](#): > > You have your own rules of debate?? My, aren’t we a precious one. > > Grow up. Lol. I guess that means you’re too immature to admit you were wrong. As for my immaturity, see post #69. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/72 "2009-03-26T13:31:59Z")
> [@brazil84](#): > > Lol. I guess that means you’re too immature to admit you were wrong. As for my immaturity, see post #69. Guess away and enjoy your delusion. My rules of debate state clearly that on a Thursday I leave idiots to their own devices. Enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![brazil84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8491ac/32.png) [@brazil84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brazil84)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472/73 "2009-03-26T16:34:09Z")
> [@martu](#): > > Guess away and enjoy your delusion. Actually you are the one who is deluded. > [@](#): > > My rules of debate state clearly that on a Thursday I leave idiots to their own devices. > > Enjoy. Lol. If this means I won’t be seeing your nonsense anymore, then I thank you. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-pit-thread/490472.md?page=3)