# Omnibus Religious Fucks in the NEWS

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066 "2022-02-07T18:33:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/261 "2023-05-27T00:47:14Z")

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You want to see a body that’s definitely corrupting go to Lucas, Kansas. One dude had a mausoleum built in his front yard, and there’s a glass window for you to see him through. The one time I looked the glass was kind of smudged, but he looked pretty green and fuzzy.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/262 "2023-05-27T01:56:43Z")

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Sacred Indigenous site on Sunshine Coast [defaced with religious message](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/may/26/sacred-indigenous-site-on-sunshine-coast-defaced-with-religious-message).

> a power tool was used to carve the words “Jesus saves just ask him” into a section of rock at the base of Mt Beerwah, in the Glass House Mountains national park.
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> The mountain holds extreme significance to the traditional owners, the Jinibara People.
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> the mountain was used for sacred ceremonies by traditional owners, and was where Indigenous women gave birth.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/263 "2023-05-27T03:31:54Z")

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Not bad form, especially the first “J”. Hoped there would have been something else in the photo to get size perspective. Perp probably would’ve used the tool on whoever came across him.

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/264 "2023-05-27T04:29:56Z")

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From other examples of aboriginal rock art I’ve seen here, the “J” word would be 2-3 metres across.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2023, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/265 "2023-05-27T04:45:30Z")

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Ah, thanks.  
Also it’s mentioned it’s a smallish community with a possibility of tracking down buddy. 👍

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/266 "2023-06-14T21:11:04Z")

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I’m guessing they overwhelmingly vote Republican.

> **[Southern Baptists refuse to take back megachurch because it has women pastors](https://apnews.com/article/southern-baptists-saddleback-vote-women-pastors-new-orleans-7ee6606b57d0bf0c4c7ed91316af12b1?user_email=c670f76b9ea3e4a287eac163aa636c2982b094e37632506fec6dbc1d27c6da2a)**
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> Southern Baptist church representatives at their annual meeting also rejected a similar appeal by a smaller church, Fern Creek Baptist of Louisville, Kentucky, which is led by a woman pastor.

> With the 9,437-1,212 vote, delegates — known as messengers — rejected an appeal by Rick Warren, the retired founding pastor of Saddleback and author of the best-selling phenomenon, “The Purpose Driven Life.”

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/267 "2023-06-14T21:15:07Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> You want to see a body that’s definitely corrupting go to Lucas, Kansas. One dude had a mausoleum built in his front yard, and there’s a glass window for you to see him through.

Ah, yes. That’s one Samuel P. Dinsmoor, who built the Garden of Eden in Lucas. It’s quite a place.

> **[Garden of Eden - Lucas, Kansas](http://www.gardenofedenlucas.org/)**
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> The Garden of Eden in Lucas, KS is the oldest intact folk art environment in the United States. In 1907, at the age of 62, Civil War veteran Samuel Perry Dinsmoor began construction of this unusual site.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/268 "2023-06-14T21:23:05Z")

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Eh, I’d ask ol’ Rick why did he bother trying to _remain_ associated. Utterly predictable result.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/269 "2023-06-14T22:02:15Z")

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Did you see him? Looked kind of green and fuzzy to me.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/270 "2023-06-14T22:21:52Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Did you see him?

Yeah, we were there about 7-8 years ago. He was certainly a bit corrupted.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/271 "2023-06-14T22:26:25Z")

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And to tie things together: If you want to see a body that’s definitely corrupting…look at the Southern Baptist Convention.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/272 "2023-06-14T23:29:56Z")

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The Anglican Church isn’t doing much better. Parts of it, anyway. [Ugandan anti-LGBTQ law deepens Anglican Church rift on gay rights | Religion News | Al Jazeera](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/14/ugandan-anti-lgbtq-law-deepens-anglican-church-rift-on-gay-rights)

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/273 "2023-06-15T01:52:47Z")

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The previous rector at our old church had split with the Episcopal Church and opened a new Anglican Church under a Ugandan bishop.

I figured genital mutilation and child brides were okay, as long as you’re allowed to hate the gays with impunity.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2023, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/274 "2023-06-15T02:53:39Z")

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It’s been literally decades since I was a member of the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America. What are we up to now on why Episcopalions in the United States have freaked out and whole congregations left that church? Here’s what I recall:

1. Changes to the Book of Common Prayer.
2. Ordaining women to the Deaconate.
3. Ordaining women to Priest and Bishop.
4. Ordaining non-practicing Gays.
5. Ordaining practicing Gays.
6. Conducting union ceremonies between Gays.
7. Conducting marriages between Gays.

Did I get those right? Did I leave anything out?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/275 "2023-06-16T17:46:13Z")

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Its schisisms up and down the whole body. As recall a few years ago,

My parents Epicopal Church was generally pro gay  
which made them in opposition with their Diocese which was generally anti-gay,  
which was in opposition to the US Episcopal movement which was generally pro gay  
which was in opposition to the world wide church which was generally anti-gay

At one more level down there were members of their church (not them) who being anti-gay were in opposition to it.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/276 "2023-06-16T22:39:02Z")

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Wow, our Lutheran church\* has a very “high church” liturgical service, almost Catholic-feeling. So I always assume that the churches with more casual services would be more casual about doctrine (and hatred).

Whoa, was I wrong… some of the guitars ‘n’ bongos non-denominational churches sure are xenophobic as soon as they stop playing folkie ‘praise choruses’ about love.

But our church, that looks like a European cathedral , has had an LGBTQ support group since the '90s, has ordained women and presided over marrying gays. Oh, and one of our ministers is trans.

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\*ELCA, I’ve heard of other synods of Lutheranism that aren’t as kind…

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/277 "2023-06-16T23:32:12Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> Wow, our Lutheran church\* has a very “high church” liturgical service, almost Catholic-feeling. So I always assume that the churches with more casual services would be more casual about doctrine (and hatred).
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> Whoa, was I wrong… some of the guitars ‘n’ bongos non-denominational churches sure are xenophobic as soon as they stop playing folkie ‘praise choruses’ about love.
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> But our church, that looks like a European cathedral , has had an LGBTQ support group since the '90s, has ordained women and presided over marrying gays. Oh, and one of our ministers is trans
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> \*ELCA, I’ve heard of other synods of Lutheranism that aren’t as kind…

Well, the bells-and-smells churches already have something of an affinity for drag…

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/278 "2023-06-16T23:52:52Z")

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> [@digs](#):
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> So I always assume that the churches with more casual services would be more casual about doctrine (and hatred).
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> Whoa, was I wrong… some of the guitars ‘n’ bongos non-denominational churches sure are xenophobic as soon as they stop playing folkie ‘praise choruses’ about love.

Ah, but you see, that’s the thing – w/o any sort of real home office laying down with authority what’s the official line, the free-form churches can be comfortably all over the place and even try to compete on who’s more hardcore “where it counts”.

“Come join us at Cornerstone Faith Fellowship! Where you can make yourself at home, let your hair down, Rock Out with the Rock(\*) AND keep your children _away_ from THOSE PEOPLE! Concealed guns welcome!”

(\*ok so Jack Chick would not approve… )

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/279 "2023-06-17T12:02:59Z")

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[Pastor Christmas wants Christians to be suicide bombers](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1669574877454671872.html). And how does he explain himself?

> “Christians need people who are ‘willing to strap bombs to their chest’ like the Muslims”- MAGA pastor Kent Christmas told his congregation last Sunday."

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**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/280 "2023-06-17T13:42:08Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> “Christians need people who are ‘willing to strap bombs to their chest’ like the Muslims”- MAGA pastor Kent Christmas told his congregation last Sunday."

“…and detonate themselves while being blessed at my altar.”

Christopher Hitchins believed that “Religion Poisons Everything”. Not quite everything, Chris.

Dan

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