# Omnibus Religious Fucks in the NEWS

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066 "2022-02-07T18:33:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/341 "2023-06-19T18:46:24Z")

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Indeed!

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/342 "2023-06-19T18:52:36Z")

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It’s the ordinal sins that I find confusing.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/343 "2023-06-19T19:03:23Z")

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The one I’ve never understood is “And she named her son Jesus, in accordance with the prophecy that he would be named Emmanuel”.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/344 "2023-06-19T19:24:29Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I never believed it even as a pretty little kid.

You’re lucky. Over my career, when I’ve asked my patients “how did your problems start?”, a surprising number replied with “Well, I wasn’t pretty as a little kid”. ;-D

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/345 "2023-06-19T19:27:15Z")

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Argh. Well, I wasn’t ugly…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/346 "2023-06-19T19:34:51Z")

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Yes, I’m sure your parents told you that. 🙂

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/347 "2023-06-19T19:51:10Z")

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LOL. Actually, no. My older sister was the pretty one. I was the creative/rebellious one. My younger sister was the mommy helper, and my brother was the boy. That was all he needed to be.

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/v44HJMk.jpeg "Imgur: The magic of the Internet") ](https://imgur.com/v44HJMk)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/348 "2023-06-19T20:04:55Z")

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Ah. You’re the one wearing the metal tag, right? I take it back: You were pretty cute as a youngster.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/349 "2023-06-19T20:35:50Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> I learned it as venial vs. mortal. Am I that old?

Only if you had the milk bottle\* images inflicted on you by the [Baltimore Catechism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_Catechism).

\* The BC used a milk bottle to depict the state of one’s soul. No sins = milk is pure white; venial sins = milk has black spots (you’ll spend a time in Purgatory); mortal sins = milk is all black (better pack your asbestos undies).

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/350 "2023-06-19T20:40:40Z")

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I must have seen it, because I can sure get a clear picture of the front of my old Baltimore Catechism in my mind. But my personal image of the soul was a shape like a Milk Bone dog biscuit. I did picture it as spotted, but that made me think of Dalmations. Is that why religion never really “stuck” for me? 🤪

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/351 "2023-06-19T21:53:54Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> “And she named her son Jesus, in accordance with the prophecy that he would be named Emmanuel”.

It’s a little funky. Emmanuel (originally “Immanuel”) means “God is with us”. Jesus essentially means “God is salvation”. So, it’s close I guess.

Isaiah 7:14, which is considered by Christianity to be a foretelling of the messiah, says:

> therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign: the maiden is with child and she will bear a son, and will call his name Immanuel.

“Maiden is with child” was interpreted by some to mean “a pregnant virgin”, hence Mary being the one referenced. Though, yeah, she didn’t quite name him the same name. I dunno, maybe in that time and place it would have made more sense.

Judaism does not consider Isaiah 7:14 to be a messianic prophecy, just FYI.

It is definitely a bit of a

🤨

And I say this as a Christian.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/352 "2023-06-19T22:17:35Z")

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**Atamasama** I’m Christian but I have the Jewish Publication Society’s translation of the Tanakh and it is intriguing to see differences in translation, and how one word can really change the meaning of a statement.

I think particularly of the line from Job that I have seen as “I know that my Redeemer lives” and the JPS has “Vindicator” The latter, to me, sounds like a lawyer is speaking to defend someone.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/353 "2023-06-19T22:32:31Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> the line from Job that I have seen as “I know that my Redeemer lives” and the JPS has “Vindicator” The latter, to me, sounds like a lawyer is speaking to defend someone

Which in the context of Job makes sense since he is being tormented by The Accuser.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/354 "2023-06-19T23:22:13Z")

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You are right, I never thought of it in that light.

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2023, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/355 "2023-06-20T00:21:16Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It is definitely a bit of a
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> 🤨
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> And I say this as a Christian.

I’d like to respond to every post in this thread with that.

That’d be kinder than “What the sacred FUCK are you talking about? You do realize that God gave you a brain, don’t you? But you can’t wait to throw it in a dumpster, all because of your pathetic need to be told what to believe by a clearly corrupt, clearly patriarchal institution.”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/356 "2023-06-21T04:26:25Z")

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[Christian demands refund from Chinese restaurant in Albequerque](https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-man-causes-scene-demands-142835369.html)

> A man was filmed causing a scene at a Chinese restaurant in Albuquerque, New Mexico, soon after he noticed a statue of Buddha inside the store.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/357 "2023-06-21T07:28:18Z")

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Insert quote from L. Sprague de Camp’s _Lest Darkness Fall_ here.

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/358 "2023-06-21T10:10:12Z")

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I know trying to understand this argument is a futile endeavor but…he wanted a refund because there was a statue of Buddha in the restaurant? Was he afraid that the food had Buddha-cooties in it and he might accidentally catch Buddhism?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 10:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/359 "2023-06-21T10:41:24Z")

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That’s it in a nutshell, emphasis on nut.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/360 "2023-06-21T17:18:48Z")

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I’ve eaten in a number of Chinese and Indian restaurants with various religious displays in them, and I’ve never caught Buddhism or any other religions.

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