# Omnibus Religious Fucks in the NEWS **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066 "2022-02-07T18:33:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2023, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/521 "2023-11-25T09:28:39Z")
Reminds me of a meme I saw a while back: It’s a funeral, and the caption reads, “we are gathered here today because your thoughts and prayers didn’t work.” ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/522 "2023-12-02T17:11:15Z")
A Texas man decided it would be a good idea to dress up as the Grinch, stand in front of school, and tell kids that Santa isn’t real, but Jesus is. > **[Texas Man Dresses as the Grinch, Stands Outside Elementary School with 'Santa...](https://people.com/texas-man-dresses-as-the-grinch-holds-sign-in-front-of-elementary-school-8409166#:~:text=In%20a%20statement%20to%20PEOPLE,gave%20me%20a%20high%20five.%22)** > > A Texas man is facing scrutiny after he dressed as the Grinch and held up a sign that read “Santa is fake. Jesus is real" outside a local elementary school. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/523 "2023-12-02T18:12:40Z")
What a dick. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/524 "2023-12-02T18:17:51Z")
I believe Jesus is real, and I love Santa too. There’s a small stained glass window in a local church with an image of St. Nicholas. He is surrounded by symbols, like a ship and a bag of coins. In the lower left hand corner, lifting his hand up in greeting towards Nick , is Santa Claus. Only stained glass Santa in a church? ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/525 "2023-12-02T18:28:44Z")
Personally, I don’t believe in either. I believe in the idea of Santa. I think children deserve to believe in magic and a guy who brings gifts for no more reason than 'cause he can. I think kids get to grow up in an imperfect sometimes ugly world and for a short while magic is fun and mysterious. I know many kids don’t get this because of poverty, neglect, religion, etc. But my kids experienced the magic and they and I don’t regret it. I don’t think it should be up to some self appointed yay hoo to tell them different. After all, Jesus and Santa are the same as far as reality and evidence are concerned. _I_ am convinced that Jesus is a myth, but I don’t stand around outside of churches or walking around town with signs proclaiming it. What other people believe in is their own business. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/526 "2023-12-02T18:42:19Z")
Feel the same about Santa. I figured it out. Especially when “From Santa” was written in my moms hand 🙂 Jesus, not too sure. Not the son of God for sure. Maybe he was just a really nice dude, and stories spread and got embelished. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/527 "2023-12-02T20:19:34Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > After all, Jesus and Santa are the same as far as reality and evidence are concerned. Santa Claus is believed to have been born about 250 years after the death of Jesus, but while we have historical accounts of him, they were written centuries after his death. We have better evidence of the existence of Jesus. Details of the lives of both of them are difficult to corroborate and surely subject to embellishments. Nicholas of Myra and Jesus of Nazareth both likely existed, though there’s a greater likelihood of Jesus’s historical fact than Nicholas. From the perspective of scholarship, the Grinch guy probably has a bit of a point, though I know that’s not what he means. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Wallaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/dc4da7/32.png) [@Wallaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallaby)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/528 "2023-12-02T20:52:56Z")
I think there’s better evidence for Santa. I’ve never seen any actual evidence that Jesus/God is still around. I have received presents from Santa. Now, some kids tried to tell me that it was my parents, but they denied that. I received presents from Santa for years, until I was told that I was too old. It’s not _strong_ evidence - but more than there is for Jesus still being alive ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/529 "2023-12-02T21:31:12Z")
> [@Wallaby](#): > > It’s not _strong_ evidence - but more than there is for Jesus still being alive The key question is: could Santa have made it through your chimney without getting stuck? This cries for an investigation in your childhood home. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/530 "2023-12-02T22:01:07Z")
I suspect the jerk was concerned about putting the christ back in christmas. Understandable if you are of a certain kind of christian faith, but the message should be directed at the parents, not the children. My born-again sister does not participate in any of the secular celebrations of christmas, just church stuff. She recognizes that as her very personal decision, and tries very hard not to judge other people who believe or act differently. She probably does send presents to her grandchildren (and great-grands, if she has any, which she might). ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/531 "2023-12-02T22:07:52Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > I think children deserve to believe in magic and a guy who brings gifts for no more reason than 'cause he can Absolutely. And as a adult I love stories about the supernatural. I don’t believe them, but some of the stories are awesome! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/532 "2023-12-02T22:52:35Z")
> [@Wallaby](#): > > I think there’s better evidence for Santa. I’ve never seen any actual evidence that Jesus/God is still around. I was referencing two people who died many centuries ago, neither is “around”. Not even Christians believe Jesus is physically here (the “second coming” is a prophesied future event). ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/533 "2023-12-02T22:59:44Z")
At least Santa’s coming sooner; just over three weeks from now. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/534 "2023-12-02T23:13:53Z")
Can we even prove there’s a Whoville? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/535 "2023-12-03T08:56:29Z")
What jumped out at me in your link is [this link to a story from 2022](https://people.com/human-interest/florida-cop-dresses-up-the-grinch-hands-out-onions-speeding-drivers/), where a Florida cop was dressing as the Grinch and handing out _onions_ to people who were speeding less than 5 miles over the limit. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/536 "2023-12-03T10:02:25Z")
Sort of. > **[WhoVille in West Valley City](https://www.utahsadventurefamily.com/whoville-in-west-valley-city/)** > > If you love the Grinch, then you need to visit Whoville in West Valley City. The whole house and yard look like a scene from the Grinch movie. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/537 "2023-12-03T17:24:49Z")
That’s close enough for me! ---
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/538 "2023-12-03T19:34:23Z")
Nicholas is one of the attendees at the Council of Nicaea. Nicholas slapped Arius for saying Jesus the Son was not equal to God the Father. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/539 "2023-12-03T19:35:14Z")
So Santa was a bully? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/540 "2023-12-03T22:00:38Z")
Sort of. He’s known to be a busybody, a snoop, a burglar, and a self-appointed avatar of karmic justice; I guess we might as well add “bully” to the list, Krampus is just his dark alter ego. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066.md?page=26) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066.md?page=28)