# Omnibus Religious Fucks in the NEWS **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066 "2022-02-07T18:33:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/541 "2023-12-03T22:06:54Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > What jumped out at me in your link is [this link to a story from 2022](https://people.com/human-interest/florida-cop-dresses-up-the-grinch-hands-out-onions-speeding-drivers/), where a Florida cop was dressing as the Grinch and handing out _onions_ to people who were speeding less than 5 miles over the limit. Did he also provide the loops to tie them to their belt, which was the style at the time? ---
**Author:** ![TokyoBayer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tokyobayer/32/13989_2.png) [@TokyoBayer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TokyoBayer)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/542 "2023-12-06T07:34:33Z")
The Mormons, or rather, in order not to offend them, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The Mormon Church could allow a bishop to waive his right of confidentiality and to send a sexual predator to prison. But instead, they pay off the victim and the perp skates. Just cuz. > **[Recordings show how the Mormon church protects itself from child sex abuse...](https://apnews.com/article/mormon-church-investigation-child-sex-abuse-9c301f750725c0f06344f948690caf16)** > > Audio recordings obtained by the AP reveal the methods the Mormon church has used to protect itself from child sex abuse allegations. Key points: > [@](#): > > Paul Rytting listened as a woman, voice quavering, told him her story. > > When she was a child, her father, a former bishop in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, had routinely slipped into bed with her while he was aroused, she said. > > It was March 2017 and Rytting offered his sympathies as 31-year-old Chelsea Goodrich spoke. A Utah attorney and head of the church’s Risk Management Division, Rytting had spent about 15 years protecting the organization, widely known as the Mormon church, from costly claims, including sexual abuse lawsuits. > > (. . . . ) > > Chelsea and Lorraine had come to the meeting with one clear request: Would the church allow a local Idaho bishop, which in the Mormon church is akin to a Catholic priest, to testify at John Goodrich’s trial? Bishop Michael Miller, who accompanied Rytting to the meeting, had heard a spiritual confession from Chelsea’s father shortly before John Goodrich was arrested on charges of sexually abusing her. > > (. . . . ) > > Audio recordings of the meetings over the next four months, obtained by The Associated Press, show how Rytting, despite expressing concern for what he called John’s “significant sexual transgression,” would employ the risk management playbook that has helped the church keep child sexual abuse cases secret. In particular, the church would discourage Miller from testifying, [citing a law that exempts clergy](https://apnews.com/article/sex-abuse-catholic-church-mormon-5d78129a2fe666159a22ce71323f6da3) from having to divulge information about child sex abuse that is gleaned in a confession. Without Miller’s testimony, prosecutors dropped the charges, telling Lorraine that her impending divorce and the years that had passed since Chelsea’s alleged abuse might prejudice jurors. > > (. . . . ) > > Today, John Goodrich, who did not respond to the AP’s questions, is a free man, practicing dentistry in Idaho. Good job Mormons! You had a chance to Choose the Right, and this is what you do. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/543 "2023-12-06T21:36:59Z")
Mormons aren’t bad people. I’ve had some good friends who were Mormons. My first girlfriend and her family were former Mormons (in their words, they “escaped”). But the church itself is absolutely fucking evil. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/544 "2023-12-06T22:17:39Z")
I could say exactly the same about Catholics. I was raised Catholic (but it was useless because I’m a natural atheist), and my whole family still is and many of my friends and acquaintances, and most aren’t bad people. In fact most of them suffer and despair in the face of the fuck-ups of their Church, the Vatican and the clergy. Many have left, and more will follow, the Catholic Church in Germany is on an ever-increasing decline. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2023, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/545 "2023-12-06T22:50:04Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I could say exactly the same about Catholics. And most organized religious organizations. I myself am Christian so it’s not like I have an anti-religion bias, but when you put together a large group of people and give them power over other people and special protections from the law, bad things are pretty much inevitable. “Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.” ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/546 "2023-12-07T00:39:32Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Mormons aren’t bad people. Are they the ones who don’t do birthdays or Halloween? There was a family in my neighborhood when I was a kid like that and we all thought they were the strangest people ever. They also always dressed in “dress clothes”. None of us played with them. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/547 "2023-12-07T00:44:01Z")
That’s Jehovah’s Witnesses. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/548 "2023-12-07T00:47:24Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Are they the ones who don’t do birthdays or Halloween? One of my best friends growing up was a Mormon and we had fun birthday parties and would go trick-or-treating. So no. > [@Chronos](#): > > That’s Jehovah’s Witnesses. Yes, that is a group that avoids birthdays and Halloween and the secular parts of Christmas (like gifts and decorations). My brother was involved with them for a time. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/549 "2023-12-07T00:48:40Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That’s Jehovah’s Witnesses TIL they are two different entities. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/550 "2023-12-07T00:50:21Z")
The only thing they really have in common is that they both knock on doors and try to convert random people. What they believe, how they are organized, the rules they follow, they almost couldn’t be more different. An easy way to remember the difference: Mormons run the state of Utah. Jehovah’s Witnesses write _The Watchtower_ magazine. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/551 "2023-12-07T00:53:54Z")
Heh, I grew up with a Jewish mom and a christian dad, xmas tree and menorah but no church nor shul in a neighborhood that was 99% Jewish. On Jewish holidays we got off of school, but I always wished my friends a happy holiday on the holidays that were not happy. Atheism is so much easier and makes so much more sense. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/552 "2023-12-07T01:51:29Z")
I thought it was Seventh Day Adventists. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/553 "2023-12-07T02:18:39Z")
Damn, another one. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/554 "2023-12-07T03:26:12Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > That’s Jehovah’s Witnesses. There is some good in all religions. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/555 "2023-12-07T03:33:14Z")
Bethany Woodruff: the actress from the Poo Pouri ads is a LDS BYU grad. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/556 "2023-12-07T03:35:12Z")
The question is does the good come because of the religious teachings, or despite them. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/557 "2023-12-07T03:38:27Z")
I was referring to not celebrating birthdays and Halloween. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/558 "2023-12-07T03:50:20Z")
IIRC, the only celebrations the JW observe are those mentioned in the Bible. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/559 "2023-12-07T03:53:18Z")
I like your style. 👍 ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/560 "2023-12-07T04:14:21Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > An easy way to remember the difference: > > Mormons run the state of Utah. > > Jehovah’s Witnesses write _The Watchtower_ magazine. Also, I’ll usually invite the Mormon kids in for a glass of water and any other refreshment I may have on hand. Nine times out of ten, they’re nice kids who are schmucked into canvassing neighborhoods far from home, and appreciate some kindness after getting dozens of doors slammed in their faces. Jahovah’s Witnesses typically get told no thank you. And good bye. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066.md?page=29)