# Omnibus Religious Fucks in the NEWS

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066 "2022-02-07T18:33:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/881 "2024-10-24T20:26:33Z")

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A young man complaining he got roughed up by an old lady is not the flex he thinks it is.

Reminds me of a scene from _Night and the City_. A plaintiff who is a 6’4" giant accuses a skinny 5’4" (with less than half the mass of the giant) defendant of beating him up. The judge hisses to the plaintiff’s lawyer: “Get the fuck out of my court!”

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/882 "2024-10-30T16:08:08Z")

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On the one hand, I feel bad for her and angry that she was treated this way. On the other…what did she expect? That she’d get a special exception just bc she’s a good Christian seems ridiculous. Very blind of her.

> **[Liberty University sued by former IT staffer fired after disclosing she's a...](https://apnews.com/article/transgender-rights-liberty-university-evangelical-christians-aclu-2d099ac36e2cfa5a865ab11e70e53708)**
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> The nationwide debate over transgender rights is playing out on a personal level in a federal court lawsuit filed by a former Liberty University employee fired by the Christian school after disclosing her identity as a transgender woman.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/883 "2024-10-30T18:08:01Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> On the one hand, I feel bad for her and angry that she was treated this way. On the other…what did she expect? That she’d get a special exception just bc she’s a good Christian seems ridiculous. Very blind of her.
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> [Liberty University sued by former IT staffer fired after disclosing she's a transgender woman | AP News](https://apnews.com/article/transgender-rights-liberty-university-evangelical-christians-aclu-2d099ac36e2cfa5a865ab11e70e53708)

Agreed. I mean, it’s fucking Liberty University - probably the most famous evangelical school in the country. They’re _known_ for being ultraconservative dickheads.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/884 "2024-10-30T18:11:49Z")

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> Zinski, 30, says she was raised as a conservative Christian, attended a Christian high school, and took the job at Liberty hoping the university — which she had admired — would accept her even after learning of her transition. She had received a positive performance review after completing her probation.
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> “I was really hoping they would work with me … that I could be myself,” she told The Associated Press. “I was hoping I could advocate for queer people. We need Jesus just as much as anyone else does.”

Another example of what happens when misplaced faith meets reality.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/885 "2024-10-30T23:17:35Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> They’re _known_ for being ultraconservative dickheads.

You misspelled _radical reactionary_ [dickheads].

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2024, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/886 "2024-10-30T23:19:57Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> (from the linked article, quoting Ms Zinski)  
> “We need Jesus just as much as anyone else does.”

That is an accurate statement.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/887 "2024-10-31T01:12:59Z")

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It is. Unfortunately, looking for the living embodiment of Jesus’s teachings at Liberty University is like looking for a vegan restaurant at [Smithfield Market](https://smithfieldmarket.com/) - you might get lucky but the odds are not good.

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/888 "2024-11-21T01:35:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And Gods don’t create sects. People do.

Gods don’t create people, but people create gods.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/889 "2024-11-21T04:27:36Z")

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“If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him” – Voltaire.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/890 "2024-11-21T15:58:49Z")

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Voltaire and Pascal would have been good god-buddies if they had lived at the same time.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/891 "2024-11-21T16:38:37Z")

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Do I smell a new time-traveling show for Great American Pure Flix?

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/892 "2024-12-25T11:44:11Z")

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Just some good, old-fashioned misogyny! It never goes out of style! And I’m sure the Pope and the Church will quickly reprimand this wayward man of the cloth!

> **[Sri Lankan cardinal bans female altar servers, but why?](https://religionnews.com/2024/12/23/sri-lankan-cardinal-bans-female-altar-servers-but-why/)**
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> (RNS) — Reckoning the cost of an archbishop having his way.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/893 "2024-12-25T12:06:40Z")

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To be honest, I had no idea the Catholic church had ever allowed female altar servants. And I am nominally Catholic \*. Fairly traditionalist Jesuit Catholic, though, my family includes an uncle whio was the lead Jesuit in Zimbabwe.

I went to a High Anglican school, which is almost indistinguishable from Catholicism, except for some brou-ha-ha about Henry VIII and divorce; we did not have female altar servants.

We had an affiliated girl’s school (mine was all boys) and we shared a common priest. At services at the girls school, the priest (“chaplain”, to be more accurate) did all the various tasks himself.

\* nominally Catholic means I am gambling my eternal life on being a) circumcised\*\*, b) baptised, and c) confirmed\*\*\*.

\*\* until really recently, I thought this was the norm for Catholics. All the Catholic males I knew were chopped. Apparently it is not canon. The Irish Catholics who had a stronghold on our area (both the priesthood and a huge nunnery) encouraged it. Not sure why…

\*\*\* what can I say? I was at a boarding school. Anglicans who got confirmed got an extra weekend off as a once-off for the event. Our small Catholic presence demanded the same treatment.

This extra weekend away from school brought the time we were allowed home from 3 times every 13 week term to a once-off 4th weekend.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/894 "2024-12-25T12:38:44Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> I thought this was the norm for Catholics. All the Catholic males I knew were chopped. Apparently it is not canon. The Irish Catholics who had a stronghold on our area (both the priesthood and a huge nunnery) encouraged it. Not sure why…

I apologize for this one-post hijack, but: as a Jew, I never understood Christian guys who _didn’t_ get circumcised. I mean, take circumcision out of it for a moment — heck, take _religion_ out of it for a moment — and just imagine that you’re going through a hard time, and that I help you out while relaying some profound-sounding quote; and that, when you ask me about what I’d just said, I mention that they were the words of the guy I fall short of but strive to emulate; I’m far from perfect, but I try my best to be like that warm friend who genuinely cared about people: following his example whenever I can. “Wow,” you reply. “So, tell me more about this guy!”

“He did a lot of carpentry, and didn’t eat bacon.”  
“So, you’ve taken up carpentry as a hobby?”  
“Uh, no; my hobby is cooking with bacon.”  
“Did he light a menorah at Hanukkah?”  
“Every year! I don’t, though.”  
“Are you a fan of sandals?”  
“He was. I’m not.”

I honestly don’t get it. I mean, I get that all of that is trivia compared to the guy’s teachings, but: if I were all-in on Christ, to the point of calling myself a Christian, I figure I’d be keen on the trivia _too,_ y’know?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/895 "2024-12-25T14:21:14Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> To be honest, I had no idea the Catholic church had ever allowed female altar servants.

We had them in the 70s, IIRC.

Maybe we were a progressive diocese.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/896 "2024-12-25T15:01:26Z")

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Not every single last detail of everyday church practice and protocol is sent down carved in stone from Rome – quite a bit is left to the national bishops’ conferences or to the individual bishops to interpret the general rules. Similar in other denominations with a central organization.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/897 "2024-12-25T15:55:58Z")

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Maybe, but historically speaking, Christianity didn’t get to be very popular in the Roman Empire until it was purged of most of its Jewish elements. Circumcision especially would have been a pretty hard sell, so I’m not surprised that they downplayed it.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/898 "2024-12-25T16:26:11Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Christianity didn’t get to be very popular in the Roman Empire until it was purged of most of its Jewish elements. Circumcision especially would have been a pretty hard sell

It’s even literally canonical: according to the Book of Acts ([Chapter 15](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=acts%2015&version=NIV)) that was taken care of in the Apostle’s own lifetime.

But I fear we’re well into hijack territory here.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/899 "2024-12-25T20:18:35Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> But I fear we’re well into hijack territory here.

Best to nip it in the bud.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/900 "2024-12-25T20:58:52Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> I apologize for this one-post hijack, but: as a Jew, I never understood Christian guys who _didn’t_ get circumcised.

That was a big deal for maybe a decade in the history of the Church, before the Church (then still being run by the original Apostles) decided that it wasn’t necessary.

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