# Omnibus Religious Fucks in the NEWS **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066 "2022-02-07T18:33:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2022, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/81 "2022-03-30T06:24:28Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pastor-spent-covid-19-relief-loan-on-mercedes-benz-s-class-prosecutor/ar-AAVDqlH?ocid=uxbndlbing](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pastor-spent-covid-19-relief-loan-on-mercedes-benz-s-class-prosecutor/ar-AAVDqlH?ocid=uxbndlbing) Maybe not a Pastor. Maybe just an all around hustler > Court documents and testimony from February and March 2021 revealed that Knight, who according to the government made himself out to be a pastor, mortician, restaurateur and tax preparer, reportedly applied for Economic Injury Disaster Loans (EIDLs) from the SBA on behalf of multiple Camden County, Georgia, businesses . ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/82 "2022-04-06T00:26:34Z")
[Nigerian Humanist Sentenced to 24 Years for Renouncing Islam](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/05/nigerian-humanist-mubarak-bala-receives-24-year-jail-sentence) This after having previously been committed to a psychiatric hospital. He has been jailed for two years during his trial, and it is suspected his sudden guilty plea is a result of threats against his family. Fuckers. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/83 "2022-04-06T00:49:44Z")
Apostasy is a Capital Crime in Islam, just like Scientology and Amway. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/84 "2022-04-06T14:29:08Z")
Meanwhile[, the Israeli government has lost its parliamentary majority](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/06/israel-naftali-bennett-loses-majority-mp-idit-silman-quits-coalition) in a dispute over…whether hospitals can serve leavened bread products during Passover. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/85 "2022-04-06T17:34:18Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > Meanwhile[, the Israeli government has lost its parliamentary majority](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/06/israel-naftali-bennett-loses-majority-mp-idit-silman-quits-coalition) in a dispute over…whether hospitals can serve leavened bread products during Passover Bah. When those ultra-religious bastards start serving in the army or paying their taxes, they should have a say in running the country. Instead they play kingmakers while contributing nothing of value. Fucking fuck. Of course Natanyahu lost power in the first place partially due to crossing them on the issue of military service. Easy come easy go, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/86 "2022-04-06T18:05:35Z")
Can somebody explain to this goyim why serving a certain type of bread at hospitals is a bad thing? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/87 "2022-04-06T18:35:36Z")
During Passover, you’re supposed to only eat unleavened bread, such as matzo. It’s supposed to represent the suffering that Hebrews suffered under Egyptian bondage. I think if you’re in the hospital then you’re probably already suffering, but I’m not Jewish. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/88 "2022-04-07T01:16:43Z")
I’m also not Jewish, but I was always under the impression that the unleavened bread symbolized the need to pack up and get out of town before the leavening had a chance to work. The bitter herbs at the Seder represented the suffering while under bondage. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/89 "2022-04-07T01:29:41Z")
As I understand it, during Passover, in strictly observing homes and institutions, there is to be _ **no** _ leavened bread even _present_ lest the unleavened be contaminated (am I close?). And of course, for the religiopolitical faction in question, the hospitals _have_ to be observing institutions and _everyone_ at the hospital has to observe, whether or not they want to. ---
**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/90 "2022-04-07T05:49:08Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > When those ultra-religious bastards start serving in the army or paying their taxes, they should have a say in running the country. > > Instead they play kingmakers while contributing nothing of value. As I understand their rationale, they believe it is their prayer and study of religious texts that keeps Israeli going and safe, NOT the army or Mossad. Hazard of the course when you are a theocracy, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/91 "2022-04-07T06:01:47Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > As I understand it, during Passover, in strictly observing homes and institutions, there is to be _ **no** _ leavened bread even _present_ lest the unleavened be contaminated (am I close?). No grain whatsoever, but it’s not really about contamination in the same way non-kosher food can contaminate kosher food. You’re just supposed to get rid of it for the duration of the holiday. There’s this funny workaround where you can symbolically “sell” your forbidden goods to a gentile and then “buy” it back afterwards. So no need to toss all your whiskey in the garbage, as an example. It stays in the house, but it’s not ‘yours’ anymore so all is well. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/92 "2022-04-07T06:43:59Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > It stays in the house, but it’s not ‘yours’ anymore so all is well. God shrugs. “Seems legit.” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/93 "2022-04-07T07:30:20Z")
Is it a theocracy, though? My understanding is that it’s a democracy. And, yes, I do know that the religious parties have a lot of clout. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/94 "2022-04-07T07:58:45Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Can somebody explain to this goyim Irresistable nit-pick: Goyim is plural. Singular is goy. There are any number of articles on-line that describe the several items on the Seder plate. They all have symbolic meanings, and are placed on the place in a specific order. The very word “seder” is literally the Hebrew word for “order”. In modern Hebrew, if you ask someone “How are you” (there are several idiomatic ways to ask this), the usual answer is literally “b’seder”, “in order”. > **[Symbolism of the Jewish Passover Seder Plate](https://jewishgiftplace.com/pages/symbolism-of-the-jewish-passover-seder-plate)** > > What is Passover? Passover is the Jewish holiday that celebrates the Exodus of Jews from their enslavement in Egypt. The Jewish people, led by Moses, asked the Pharoah to free the Jewish slaves, and was denied. As punishment against Egypt, God sent... Modern Judaism, not being run by a centralized authority like the Vatican, has taken a lot of branches, and Reform Judaism in particular has often taken a liberal progressive tone. (For example, allowing women rabbis.) Since the Seder commemorates the oppression of the Jews in Egypt and their liberation therefrom, modern Seders in some congregations also attempt to honor other oppressed peoples and their liberation, or there hoped-for liberation. I attended one Seder in the 1970s, for example, that included mention of the oppressed Blacks in South Africa under apartheid. The article I posted mentions a modern addition to the Seder plate in some circles: An orange. > [@](#): > > ## An Orange - A New Addition to the Passover Seder Plate > > An orange symbolizes the intolerance of women and homosexuals in Judaism. This new tradition began in the 1980’s be Susannah Heschel. It represents the fruitfulness of all Jews when there is inclusively for all. > > Heschel, a Jewish feminist scholar, says that she started the tradition after witnessing students placing crusts of bread on their plates to symbolize the intolerance of women and homosexuals in Judaism. Heschel loved the idea of symbolizing these minorities, but changed the bread crust to an orange, in order to avoid violating the restrictions of the Passover diet. Heschel would spit out the seeds of the fruit, as if “spitting out” or rejecting intolerance of homosexuals. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/95 "2022-04-07T12:35:46Z")
> [@Askance](#): > > As I understand their rationale, they believe it is their prayer and study of religious texts that keeps Israeli going and safe, NOT the army or Mossad. Hazard of the course when you are a theocracy, I guess. Oh yeah, THAT worked us well for us Jewish people over the last two thousand years or so, right? ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/96 "2022-04-07T13:39:05Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > There’s this funny workaround where you can symbolically “sell” your forbidden goods to a gentile and then “buy” it back afterwards. So no need to toss all your whiskey in the garbage, as an example. It stays in the house, but it’s not ‘yours’ anymore so all is well. My sister packs it all into a cabinet and seals it off with duct tape. Her high school bff, who isn’t Jewish, sends her an envelope every year with a dollar and a letter claiming ownership of the cabinet’s contents, both of which my sister tapes to the cabinet. After Passover she sends the dollar back. It’s a silly and enduring ritual they’ve been perpetuating for more than 30 years. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/97 "2022-04-07T13:41:04Z")
> [@Johnny\_Bravo](#): > > There’s this funny workaround where you can symbolically “sell” your forbidden goods to a gentile and then “buy” it back afterwards. So no need to toss all your whiskey in the garbage, as an example. It stays in the house, but it’s not ‘yours’ anymore so all is well. I’ve heard of that before. I think it would be hilarious if somebody sold all their stuff to someone for some tiny symbolic amount, and when it came time to sell it back the other person decided not to. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/98 "2022-04-07T13:49:27Z")
So, how about gathering all the leavened bread and taking it to storage off hospital grounds for however long the observance lasts, and paying a minimal fee to technically transfer ownership? I assume this method has been debated. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/99 "2022-04-07T15:30:51Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Oh yeah, THAT worked us well for us Jewish people over the last two thousand years or so, right? Sure, but just think how bad things would have been if they _hadn’t_ done that. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/100 "2022-04-07T15:34:38Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > It’s a silly and enduring ritual they’ve been perpetuating for more than 30 years. It _is_ silly, but it’s also kinda sweet, I think. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066.md?page=6)