# Omnibus Religious Fucks in the NEWS **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066 "2022-02-07T18:33:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/101 "2022-04-07T15:36:38Z")
I’d send them a $2 bill one year with a note attached. “Inflation.” ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/102 "2022-04-07T15:44:00Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > So, how about gathering all the leavened bread and taking it to storage off hospital grounds for however long the observance lasts, and paying a minimal fee to technically transfer ownership? I assume this method has been debated. That’s not the issue, it’s not about the hospital’s own bread. What happened was, at one of the major hospitals they wanted to rule that visitors and patients cannot bring in bread. The government ruled against them. They tried to get around this ruling by “politely requesting” that guests don’t bring in bread but this was seen through as bullshit. Now the backlash against the government for this ruling from the religious right may cause some of the religious right representatives currently in coallition to go crawling back to Bibi, which could be enough to topple the current government’s majority. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/103 "2022-04-07T15:55:13Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > It’s a silly and enduring ritual they’ve been perpetuating for more than 30 years. I, as a non-Jewish person, think that not only is God not fooled by this transparent chicanery, but this kind of “rules lawyering” perpetuates the “shyster lawyer” stereotype. My Jewish friends tell me, nay, G\_d _wants_ us to look for loopholes. This is not only acceptable, but _correct_. But it’s no skin off my nose. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/104 "2022-04-07T16:38:49Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I, as a non-Jewish person, think that not only is God not fooled by this transparent chicanery, but this kind of “rules lawyering” perpetuates the “shyster lawyer” stereotype. You know what? Bigotry grounded in reality seems a lot better than than “Jews harvest the organs of children” or “Jews caused the black death” or “Jewish space lasers start wildfires.” I think I’m okay with that. Your friends are correct that the Jewish relationship with God is at times adversarial. It’s essentially a binding legal contract, and both parties have obligations to fulfill. There’s a great story in the Talmud that goes like this: A bunch of rabbis are arguing a super technical point of law. All of them are in agreement but one. The lone rabbi begins performing miracles to prove his point, but the others are like, “what do a bunch of magic tricks have to do with the law?” Eventually God himself speaks from the heavens and says, “Hey guys, this rabbi is pretty much my favorite and whatever he says goes.” So what do the “wrong” rabbis do? They tell God that **he has no special say** in the interpretation of the law because it’s an earthly document and not a heavenly one. God not only concedes the point, but he’s delighted to have been proven wrong. The majority opinion stands. In the joke based on this story, the punchline is, “Okay… so now it’s three votes for and two votes against.” It’s not about loopholes. It’s about free will. [Here’s a longer take on the story.](https://forward.com/opinion/451197/in-the-talmud-god-admits-he-is-wrong-and-laughs-theres-a-lesson-there-for/) ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/105 "2022-04-07T19:31:28Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Is it a theocracy, though? My understanding is that it’s a democracy. And, yes, I do know that the religious parties have a lot of clout. It can be legitimately argued that if the word “blasphemy” can have meaning under the law, it’s a theocracy. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/106 "2022-04-08T01:32:38Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > It can be legitimately argued that if the word “blasphemy” can have meaning under the law, it’s a theocracy There are parts of Israel’s government that could lead one to describe it as a theocracy - for example, the way marriage is handled. But its “blasphemy” law would be one of the last. Wikipedia has a decent summary: > [@](#): > > #### Israel[Edit](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blasphemy_law&action=edit§ion=53) > > In [Israel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel), blasphemy laws were enacted by the pre-State [British Mandate](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_for_Palestine) in an attempt to suppress the [1929 Palestine riots](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1929_Palestine_riots).[[212]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#cite_note-212)[[213]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#cite_note-israel-213) > > Blasphemy is covered by Articles 170 and 173 of the penal code as enacted by the British Mandate:[[214]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#cite_note-214)[[215]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#cite_note-215) > > _Insult to religion_ > > _170. If a person destroys, damages or desecrates a place of worship or any object which is held sacred by a group of persons, with the intention of reviling their religion, or in the knowledge that they are liable to deem that act an insult to their religion, then the one is liable to three years’ imprisonment._ > > _Injury to religious sentiment_ > > _173. If a person does any of the following, then the one is liable to one year’s imprisonment:_ > > _(1) One publishes a publication that is liable to crudely offend the religious faith or sentiment of others;_ > > _(2) One voices in a public place and in the hearing of another person any word or sound that is liable to crudely offend the religious faith or sentiment of others._ > > The law is rarely enforced due to concerns of infringing civil liberties. However, one right-wing activist was sentenced to two years in prison after scattering leaflets in [Hebron](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebron) in 1997, which pictured Muhammed as a pig desecrating the Quran.[[213]](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law#cite_note-israel-213) ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/107 "2022-04-08T15:50:45Z")
Pastor arrested for putting tape over the mouths of chatty students. > **[Louisiana pastor, 'Survivor' contestant, GOP official charged with cruelty to...](https://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2022/04/07/louisiana-pastor-survivor-contestant-charged-cruelty-children/9506143002/)** > > The Rev. John Raymond is headmaster of Lakeside Christian School in Slidell, Louisiana, and a member of the state's Republican governing board. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/108 "2022-04-08T15:54:16Z")
> A Louisiana pastor and headmaster of a Christian school who is also a member of the state’s Republican Party governing board and a former “Survivor” contestant It’s like someone went onto a web site that randomly generates the backstory of a supervillain. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/109 "2022-05-22T23:15:08Z")
Bunch of lying-ass fucks and sex offenders. > **[Southern Baptist leaders covered up sex abuse, kept secret database, report says](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/southern-baptist-leaders-covered-up-sex-abuse-kept-secret-database-report-says/ar-AAXALws?li=BBnb7Kz)** > > Among the findings in the report was a previously unknown case of a pastor who was credibly accused of assaulting a woman a month after leaving the presidency of the Southern Baptist Convention. Among the findings in the report was a previously unknown case of a pastor who was credibly accused of assaulting a woman a month after leaving the presidency of the Southern Baptist Convention. Leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention on Sunday released a major third-party investigation that found that sex abuse survivors were often ignored, minimized and “even vilified” by top clergy in the nation’s largest Protestant denomination. ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/110 "2022-05-22T23:37:25Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Bunch of lying-ass fucks and sex offenders. > > [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/southern-baptist-leaders-covered-up-sex-abuse-kept-secret-database-report-says/ar-AAXALws?li=BBnb7Kz) > > Among the findings in the report was a previously unknown case of a pastor who was credibly accused of assaulting a woman a month after leaving the presidency of the Southern Baptist Convention. > > Leaders in the Southern Baptist Convention on Sunday released a major third-party investigation that found that sex abuse survivors were often ignored, minimized and “even vilified” by top clergy in the nation’s largest Protestant denomination. And it’s the right-wingnuts that are all afraid that school teachers and Disney are trying to “groom” their kids. Their kids are much more likely to be abused by family and church than a trans-woman reading them a story in the school library. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2022, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/111 "2022-05-22T23:43:33Z")
Easy enough to understand if you treat “groom” as a code word for “speak the truth to.” They are convinced (and possibly rightly so) that if their children hear the truth about the objects of bigotry, they would be less inclined to carry on the bigotry indoctrinated into them by their parents. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/112 "2022-05-24T16:45:04Z")
Better to admit to adultery than rape, I guess. > **[‘I Was Just 16’: Pastor’s ‘Adultery’ Confession in Church Goes Off the Rails](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/i-was-just-16-pastor-s-adultery-confession-in-church-goes-off-the-rails/ar-AAXF3lh?cvid=c623ecc7364145b6aad7cb0e67cc9fc9)** > > Prosecutors in Indiana are now investigating after a woman took the stage to confront the pastor. “The lies and the manipulation have to stop,” she told him. ---
**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/113 "2022-05-25T02:16:05Z")
I love how she told him off to his face: “You are not the victim here.” “Don’t look at me like that. You know the truth.” I admire her for speaking out. Even though a bunch of men stood around her trying to intimidate her into silence. As Maggie Kuhn said, Speak the truth even if your voice shakes. ---
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/114 "2022-05-26T04:49:11Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Better to admit to adultery than rape, I guess. If he was married at the time, then it was adultery. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/115 "2022-05-26T22:16:28Z")
[Kanakuk camper says she was told to apologize, denied call home after reporting abuse (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kanakuk-camper-says-she-was-told-to-apologize-denied-call-home-after-reporting-abuse/ar-AAXKCDM?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=eb949113f6c247daa9b98d350f15b069) Assaultees made to apologize to assaulter. > Without warning, Caroline said, Chancey brought the boy into the meeting to force reconciliation. She said the boy admitted he “may have” groped the girls, but Chancey wanted the girls to apologize to the boy for making the accusation. > Caroline said her friend was crying and acquiesced; Caroline refused. > > She accused the boy of “lying in the eyes of the Lord.” > > “We’re not bringing the Lord into this,” Chancey interrupted, according to Caroline. > > “You brought in salvation and forgiveness, but we’re not bringing the Lord into this? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/116 "2022-05-26T22:27:16Z")
She probably wasn’t his only victim either. It will only be a matter of time before more step forward, IMNSHO. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/117 "2022-05-26T22:59:04Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > She probably wasn’t his only victim either. The article mentioned 3 in the same incident. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/118 "2022-05-26T23:47:05Z")
We have to tread lightly with budding sociopaths. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2022, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/119 "2022-05-27T03:36:48Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/southern-baptist-leaders-release-secret-accused-abuser-list/ar-AAXMnLB?cvid=27bfadfca7dd48c18e1ec96f147403e1](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/southern-baptist-leaders-release-secret-accused-abuser-list/ar-AAXMnLB?cvid=27bfadfca7dd48c18e1ec96f147403e1) > “Despite collecting these reports for more than 10 years, there is no indication that (Oldham and Boto) or anyone else, took any action to ensure that the accused ministers were no longer in positions of power at SBC churches,” the report said. I wish I was surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/120 "2022-06-13T23:58:14Z")
Fuck this guy [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-southern-baptists-gather-right-wing-faction-sounds-alarms/ar-AAYpX60?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/as-southern-baptists-gather-right-wing-faction-sounds-alarms/ar-AAYpX60?li=BBnb7Kz) The devil has been whispering in his ear and and guiding him for a long time. Fuck all of them > “Pretty soon it will be women preachers, social justice, then racism, then [critical race theory], then victimization because the world is a ball and chain, and when you’re hooked, it will take you to the bottom. They hate the truth,” MacArthur said to a crowd that flipped, through the night, between pin-drop silence and cheers of “That’s true!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066.md?page=7)