# Omnibus Religious Fucks in the NEWS

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066 "2022-02-07T18:33:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1341 "2026-10-23T04:04:31Z")

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One of the best comments I saw on the Twitter/Bluesky threads will “I’ll just show Ben Franklin how to use OnlyFans and he’ll be cool”.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2026, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1342 "2026-10-23T05:28:36Z")

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There are a number of branches of the Presbyterian Church, ranging from very fundamentalist to very liberal, and my own experience with them is that the they only invite people to church and the like if they themselves have expressed interest.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2026, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1343 "2026-10-23T08:23:11Z")

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You really don’t get what I mean, do you? If in doubt, generic _you_, like You-S-A. I guess only Godott’s personal intervention can cure that. With plenty of fire and brimstone.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2026, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1344 "2026-10-23T08:25:30Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> > [@Smapti](#):
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> > American Founding Fathers will judge you in the afterlife
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> Wait… _what???_
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> (I’m having that reaction entirely too often still. I thought by now I’d get jaded.)

Personally, I think that, given the current situation, they’d be okay with my dictum that it’s a sin to vote for a Republican.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2026, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1345 "2026-10-23T09:27:26Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Thomas Jefferson is going to hold _me_ accountable? Almost makes me wish I weren’t an atheist. 😁

There’s also the small matter of Jefferson’s own religious views, which may also have resulted in an interesting afterlife for him (on top of, you know, all the slavery and the rest).

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2026, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1346 "2026-10-23T23:32:33Z")

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I love to remind MAGAts that Thomas Jefferson owned a Koran. Far too many of them think the Koran is some kind of new creation.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1347 "2026-10-24T00:25:35Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> As if there is some bright line between the two groups, when in fact it is a continuum with only tiny steps separating one end from the other.

That’s true of people in general, not just religious people. Some are nice, some are jerks, and some at every point in between.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1348 "2026-10-24T00:31:13Z")

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And, to be honest, sometimes we’re jerks and sometimes we’re nice. Few people are always one or the other.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1349 "2026-10-24T00:33:02Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Far too many of them think the Koran is some kind of new creation.

BRB, going to go tell r/conservative that Barack Hussein Obama invented the Koran and see if it takes over as a Fox News talking point

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1350 "2026-10-24T03:58:52Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> > [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> > As if there is some bright line between the two groups, when in fact it is a continuum with only tiny steps separating one end from the other.
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> That’s true of people in general, not just religious people. Some are nice, some are jerks, and some at every point in between.

Very true. Why do some people want to give religious people more credit when they are not jerks (or assholes), vs. people in general?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1351 "2026-10-24T12:27:25Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Far too many of them think the Koran is some kind of new creation.

To be fair, relative to most major religious texts (I’m looking at you, _Book of Mormon_) it is young.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1352 "2026-10-24T15:20:51Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Very true. Why do some people want to give religious people more credit when they are not jerks (or assholes), vs. people in general?

When people start attacking religion and religious people as a whole, because of that fraction of religious people who are jerks, it’s only natural for religious people to point out that we’re not all jerks. And when nonreligious people get attacked in the same way, it’s also natural to point out that not all nonreligious people are jerks. It’s just that, in this particular community, the former is more common than the latter.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1353 "2026-10-24T15:43:07Z")

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And, the good that is done by religious orgs is less newsworthy than the evils done by individuals in the organizations. OVERALL, they really do more good than harm.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1354 "2026-10-24T15:53:06Z")

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So just assuming that their doing good is just par for the course is bad?  
If I do a good job at work and nothing bad happens the news doesn’t say jack, but if I rob the place while wearing white disco boots and singing the theme song to “Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes” that, for some strange reason, gets mentioned all over the place by the press.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1355 "2026-10-24T16:00:46Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> but if I rob the place while wearing white disco boots and singing the theme song to “Attack Of The Killer Tomatoes” that, for some strange reason, gets mentioned all over the place by the press.

You know this from personal experience?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1356 "2026-10-24T16:03:18Z")

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_Totally_ hypothetical, so don’t bother doing any research on it.

Please.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1357 "2026-10-24T17:05:39Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> And, the good that is done by religious orgs is less newsworthy than the evils done by individuals in the organizations. OVERALL, they really do more good than harm.

I wasn’t talking about religious organizations, only individuals. It is possible that religious individuals as a whole do more good than harm, but I don’t think this is proven. I’m not talking, either, only about spectacular or noteworthy harm, only the every-day sorts of repressions and squelchings that are routinely done and said in the name of religious beliefs.

I definitely don’t think you can say that about religious organizations. I realize this is my own hobby horse, not shared by the majority, as the religious organizations are very assiduous in maintaining their front of “doing good” even while routinely taking actions that are not in the best interests of anyone except those who make their living and grow their power out of religion. I also realize that this observation would be better off debated in its own Great Debates thread, so I won’t bring it up any more in this one.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1358 "2026-10-24T17:57:11Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> And, the good that is done by religious orgs is less newsworthy than the evils done by individuals in the organizations. OVERALL, they really do more good than harm.

The _kind_ of bad they do more than overwhelms the good they do.  
Don’t forget the coverups of what individuals do.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1359 "2026-10-24T19:41:16Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> _Totally_ hypothetical, so don’t bother doing any research on it.

I wish I’d read this before that rabbit hole I went down…

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2026, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-fucks-in-the-news/959066/1360 "2026-10-24T23:07:07Z")

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Like I said, totally hypothetical.

And it was “Puberty Love”

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