# Omnibus "religious people who think they control the virus" thread. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 29, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616 "2020-03-29T19:40:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/282 "2020-04-24T05:19:45Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I am not ruling out both. And, IIRC, she’s female. Dishonest, stupid, and female, the trifecta of bad? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/283 "2020-04-24T05:52:24Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Dishonest, stupid, and female, the trifecta of bad? I mentioned female because you used the pronoun _he_ referring to that particular poster. The actual trifecta is _stupid, dishonest, and ignorant_. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/284 "2020-04-24T06:01:32Z")
Sorry about that, **Darren Garrison**. My apologies. I mixed you up with someone else. That post should read: > [@](#): > > I mentioned female because someone used the pronoun _he_ referring to that particular poster. The actual trifecta is _stupid, dishonest, and ignorant_. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/285 "2020-04-24T12:10:49Z")
Ah. That had seemed like a [gay mountain climber](https://www.villagevoice.com/2010/11/16/youtube-treasure-news-anchor-calls-blind-man-gay/) moment. ---
**Author:** ![mandala](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mandala/32/95_2.png) [@mandala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mandala)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/286 "2020-04-24T14:29:08Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > I detect a slight whiff of Indian Islamophobia here, so just to note that religious/nationalist nutjobs on the subcontinent are [not limited to just one particular religion](https://www.dw.com/en/hindu-group-hosts-cow-urine-drinking-party-to-ward-off-coronavirus/a-52773262) and offering just plain bad information is [not limited to just one world leader](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-51910099). Thanks for confirming that anything that shows Muslims in a bad light is automatically Islamophobia. I posted links to the facts. I did not make unfounded accusations. Thousands of Muslims really did conduct themselves in a way that gave rise to multiple coronavirus hotspots all over the country - [30% of all known cases in India](https://www.livemint.com/news/india/30-covid-19-cases-in-india-linked-to-tablighi-jamaat-event-govt-11587218560611.html) arise from this singular event. I don’t care if people do batty things in private as long as they are not spreading an extremely contagious disease around. > [@Ispolkom](#): > > And there were no Hindu religious zealots who also spread the disease? As in, a Hindu religious leader openly exhorting his followers to flout the lockdown, clash with police, and indulge in mass gatherings? None. Also, what is your point here? Any criticism of Muslims automatically sounds like Islamophobia, and you need to point fingers at others communities in retaliation? > [@](#): > > Or were they just not vilified in the Hindu nationalist press? Everybody loves a scapegoat. India’s English press is extremely Left-leaning and pro-Muslim and there is nothing “Hindu nationalist” about them. I wish there was, but there isn’t. > [@](#): > > [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia\_pacific/as-world-looks-for-coronavirus-scapegoats-india-pins-blame-on-muslims/2020/04/22/3cb43430-7f3f-11ea-84c2-0792d8591911\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/as-world-looks-for-coronavirus-scapegoats-india-pins-blame-on-muslims/2020/04/22/3cb43430-7f3f-11ea-84c2-0792d8591911_story.html) > [@](#): > > The government of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi has pursued an agenda of Hindu primacy, moving India away from its secular founding ideals and raising fears that Muslims will be treated as second-class citizens. There, that is enough for me to call bullshit on this WaPo article. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/287 "2020-04-24T14:30:40Z")
What happens when you do that? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/288 "2020-04-24T15:46:19Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > It Doesn’t say that in revelation? No one will ever have a cashless society? That’s Not the patent number? Smh You live right outside Waco? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/289 "2020-04-24T18:08:05Z")
> [@mandala](#): > > Thanks for confirming that anything that shows Muslims in a bad light is automatically Islamophobia. I posted links to the facts. I did not make unfounded accusations. Thousands of Muslims really did conduct themselves in a way that gave rise to multiple coronavirus hotspots all over the country - [30% of all known cases in India](https://www.livemint.com/news/india/30-covid-19-cases-in-india-linked-to-tablighi-jamaat-event-govt-11587218560611.html) arise from this singular event. I don’t care if people do batty things in private as long as they are not spreading an extremely contagious disease around. You didn’t just post facts. You constantly repeated the word Muslim over and over in your post as if the particular religion was relevant. Every time you mentioned them doing something bad, you had to mention that they were Muslim. It didn’t necessarily indicate bigotry, but there was a whiff of it–i.e. the possibility. Hence he was being proactive in making sure that there was no bigotry. You were not being accused. However, frankly, your rebuttal post may have changed that. You actually wished that a newspaper were more bigoted against non-Hindus–i.e. more Hindu nationalist. And you appear to be very unaware of your current leader’s blatant hatred for Muslims, culminating in actually coming up with a law that removes citizenship from all Indians and then restores it only to non-Muslims. That is, unless you can rebut the claims made in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVIXUhZ2AWs). So you went from “maybe, possibly bigoted, but worth the benefit of a doubt” to “yeah, he seems to think Muslims are inferior to Hindus.” ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/290 "2020-04-24T20:48:20Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > You know, it occurs to me that during the Tenth Plague of Egypt it wasn’t enough to just be faithful or observe rituals or whatever, the Israelites had to do something additional to protect themselves. (Mark their doorways with lamb’s blood, specifically). I’ve always thought that was pretty tough for the sheep. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/291 "2020-04-24T20:59:11Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > You live right outside Waco? I wish I lived in Texas(dislike winter) ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/292 "2020-04-24T21:01:06Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > You didn’t just post facts. You constantly repeated the word Muslim over and over in your post as if the particular religion was relevant. Every time you mentioned them doing something bad, you had to mention that they were Muslim. It didn’t necessarily indicate bigotry, but there was a whiff of it–i.e. the possibility. Hence he was being proactive in making sure that there was no bigotry. You were not being accused. > > However, frankly, your rebuttal post may have changed that. You actually wished that a newspaper were more bigoted against non-Hindus–i.e. more Hindu nationalist. And you appear to be very unaware of your current leader’s blatant hatred for Muslims, culminating in actually coming up with a law that removes citizenship from all Indians and then restores it only to non-Muslims. That is, unless you can rebut the claims made in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVIXUhZ2AWs). > > So you went from “maybe, possibly bigoted, but worth the benefit of a doubt” to “yeah, he seems to think Muslims are inferior to Hindus.” So it’s not okay to knock Muslim’s(and I agree you shouldn’t )but okay to knock Christians(fundies)huh.double standard noted ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/293 "2020-04-24T21:05:29Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > So it’s not okay to knock Muslim’s(and I agree you shouldn’t )but okay to knock Christians(fundies)huh.double standard noted Speaking for myself, I’m fine with knocking any person behaving like an idiot and endangering the lives of others. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/294 "2020-04-25T00:24:47Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > Speaking for myself, I’m fine with knocking any person behaving like an idiot and endangering the lives of others. I rip on all religions as equally as possible. However, since I am in xtianville, they get most of my ridicule. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/295 "2020-04-25T00:30:26Z")
Fair enough ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/296 "2020-04-25T10:17:43Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > So it’s not okay to knock Muslim’s(and I agree you shouldn’t )but okay to knock Christians(fundies)huh.double standard noted You’re not getting knocked for your religion. You’re getting knocked for your abject stupidity and dishonesty. ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/297 "2020-04-25T15:25:38Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > You didn’t just post facts. You constantly repeated the word Muslim over and over in your post as if the particular religion was relevant… Muslims / Fundamental Islam is responsible for keeping Polio alive as well. Quote (Bolding mine) : “ As of 2009, polio remains endemic to 4 countries (India, Nigeria, Pakistan, and Afghanistan); in 2008, cases were also detected in 14 other countries. Religious opposition by \*\*Muslim \*\* fundamentalists is a major factor in the failure of immunization programs against polio in Nigeria (2), Pakistan (3) and Afghanistan (4). ” Taken from : [Religious Opposition to Polio Vaccination - PMC](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2727330/) The author also mentions Muslims several times in the publication. It’s a scientific publication of facts but I guess you will call it Islamophobia. > [@](#): > > …he seems to think Muslims are inferior to Hindus." I think your opinion comes from the Islamic belief that all Infidels/Kaffirs aka non-Muslims are inferior to Muslims and are destined to hell. Hinduism believes (at least by most) that your action (karma) counts more than your beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/298 "2020-04-25T15:32:45Z")
So…Hinduism is the “I’m rubber, you’re glue” of world religions? Huh. ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/299 "2020-04-25T17:50:58Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > So…Hinduism is the “I’m rubber, you’re glue” of world religions? > > Huh. No one said that. Hinduism is filled with many shortcomings like casteism, religious zealots, male chauvinism, female infanticide etc. It is okay to criticize Hindus for the shortcomings and it should be okay the other way too. Its something Hindus need to work on just like Muslims need to work on somethings too. BTW : India is the only place in the world where there was no anti-semitism and Jews have lived peacefully since 587 BCE in Cochin. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/300 "2020-04-25T18:53:43Z")
> [@am77494](#): > > No one said that. Hinduism is filled with many shortcomings like casteism, religious zealots, male chauvinism, female infanticide etc. It is okay to criticize Hindus for the shortcomings and it should be okay the other way too. Its something Hindus need to work on just like Muslims need to work on somethings too. > > BTW : India is the only place in the world where there was no anti-semitism and Jews have lived peacefully since 587 BCE in Cochin. Kind of busy fucking over another large portion of the population right now, aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/301 "2020-04-25T20:17:03Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Kind of busy fucking over another large portion of the population right now, aren’t they? Kinda like you stopped beating your wife - right ? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616.md?page=16)