# Omnibus "religious people who think they control the virus" thread.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616 "2020-03-29T19:40:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/302 "2020-04-25T20:19:21Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> Kinda like you stopped beating your wife - right ?

Nope-It is more like India is kind of busy fucking over another large portion of the population right now.

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**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/303 "2020-04-25T20:43:10Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Nope-It is more like India is kind of busy fucking over another large portion of the population right now.

You know what they say about extraordinary claims ?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2020, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/304 "2020-04-25T20:55:58Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> You know what they say about extraordinary claims ?

Go read a newspaper.  
Extraordinary claim, my ass.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/305 "2020-04-26T02:51:35Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> India is the only place in the world where there was no anti-semitism and Jews have lived peacefully since 587 BCE in Cochin.

There is anti-semitism there now and has been since before the middle of the 20th Century.

[Here](https://www.indiaabroad.com/opinion/anti-semitism-of-hindu-nationalists-made-me-a-target-of/article_2c6b47be-e15a-11e8-b1f2-4b62626ebf78.html) is an interesting read on the matter.

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**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/306 "2020-04-26T03:14:49Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> There is anti-semitism there now and has been since before the middle of the 20th Century.
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> [Here](https://www.indiaabroad.com/opinion/anti-semitism-of-hindu-nationalists-made-me-a-target-of/article_2c6b47be-e15a-11e8-b1f2-4b62626ebf78.html) is an interesting read on the matter.

Jeez, That’s one person’s opinion. Here is a news report by PTI Jerusalem : [India expresses solidarity with Israel as world leaders gather in Jerusalem against anti-Semitism](https://www.deccanherald.com/international/india-expresses-solidarity-with-israel-as-world-leaders-gather-in-jerusalem-against-anti-semitism-797493.html)

Opinion columns are not news. Just because someone puts a opinion column from an American on earth being flat, doesn’t make all Americans flat earthers.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/307 "2020-04-26T03:35:49Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> Jeez, That’s one person’s opinion. Here is a news report by PTI Jerusalem : [India expresses solidarity with Israel as world leaders gather in Jerusalem against anti-Semitism](https://www.deccanherald.com/international/india-expresses-solidarity-with-israel-as-world-leaders-gather-in-jerusalem-against-anti-semitism-797493.html)
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> Opinion columns are not news. Just because someone puts a opinion column from an American on earth being flat, doesn’t make all Americans flat earthers.

I could have sworn India’s Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, is a Hindu National.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/308 "2020-04-26T04:24:32Z")

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The fact is that for almost a hundred years, there has been anti-semitism in India. The opinion piece I provided included references to nifty little things called facts.

I’m starting to wish stupidity were painful so you would actually hurt when you blather.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/309 "2020-04-26T05:59:38Z")

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Pretty much classic cases of “Religious Intolerance is when Other People do it, I’m telling it like it is”.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/310 "2020-04-26T12:16:56Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> I’m starting to wish stupidity were painful so you would actually hurt when you blather.

Then dude would be debilitated from [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=682490).

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**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/311 "2020-04-26T13:31:56Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> The opinion piece I provided included references to nifty little things called facts.

Like the “nifty facts” against Climate Change provided by Judith A. Curry, an American climatologist and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.

Look, there will always be detractors to the majority views and mainstream reality. India is not Saudi Arabia Or the wider Muslim world where News/news media is suppressed.

Just like Climate Change is real, but Judith Curry is entitled to her contrarian opinion, so is the opinion piece.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/312 "2020-04-26T13:50:00Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Then dude would be debilitated from [this](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=682490).

Good Lord! That and the post above are very telling.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/313 "2020-04-26T14:05:47Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> Like the “nifty facts” against Climate Change provided by Judith A. Curry, an American climatologist and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.
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> Look, there will always be detractors to the majority views and mainstream reality. India is not Saudi Arabia Or the wider Muslim world where News/news media is suppressed.
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> Just like Climate Change is real, but Judith Curry is entitled to her contrarian opinion, so is the opinion piece.

If you want to prove that racism is not a problem in India, then prove it. Pointing out that there are idiots in the world who are wrong about unrelated things, helps your argument not at all.

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**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/314 "2020-04-26T14:21:53Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> If you want to prove that racism is not a problem in India, then prove it. Pointing out that there are idiots in the world who are wrong about unrelated things, helps your argument not at all.

Au contraire, my friend - the claim of its existence was made by another poster and I merely said “Extraordinary claims …”

I have no burden of proof.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/315 "2020-04-26T14:29:51Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> Au contraire, my friend - the claim of its existence was made by another poster and I merely said “Extraordinary claims …”
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> I have no burden of proof.

What you “merely said” wasn’t a proper response, it was a content-less denial of reality. To claim that the facts in that article are false because someone else was wrong about something else has got to be the stupidest argument I’ve heard in years. If you can dispute facts given in that article, just fucking do so.

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**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/316 "2020-04-26T14:32:22Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I could have sworn India’s Prime Minister, Narendra Modi, is a Hindu National.

The current prime minister of India is Modi, democratically elected in the largest democracy in the world. Previously it was a Sikh and decades ago it was a guess what : A Woman.

It’s not like the US where a Mormon has to worry about his chances for getting elected or a Woman lose after getting majority votes.

Maybe Fix your own house before poking your nose in others? and while you are there : Just another maybe ; think about bringing democracy and human rights to Islamic (Muslim ) countries ?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/317 "2020-04-26T14:40:45Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> The current prime minister of India is Modi, democratically elected in the largest democracy in the world. Previously it was a Sikh and decades ago it was a guess what : A Woman.
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> It’s not like the US where a Mormon has to worry about his chances for getting elected or a Woman lose after getting majority votes.
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> Maybe Fix your own house before poking your nose in others? and while you are there : Just another maybe ; think about bringing democracy and human rights to Islamic (Muslim ) countries ?

What is the current position of Hindu Nationalists when it comes to the rights of Muslims in India?  
BTW, to the best of my abilities I _am_ trying to fix the problems in my country. What I am NOT doing is claiming the problems aren’t there to begin with.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/318 "2020-04-26T14:44:43Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> The current prime minister of India is Modi, democratically elected in the largest democracy in the world. Previously it was a Sikh and decades ago it was a guess what : A Woman.
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> It’s not like the US where a Mormon has to worry about his chances for getting elected or a Woman lose after getting majority votes.
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> Maybe Fix your own house before poking your nose in others? and while you are there : Just another maybe ; think about bringing democracy and human rights to Islamic (Muslim ) countries ?

You ignoramus. There are democracies which have a majority Muslim population. And you’re going to tout India as a great democracy now, a country whose sitting government has stripped nationality from non-Hindus? Get real.

By the way, Mormons have risen to very high levels in the United States government, as have women. There are even women Mormons in public office.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/319 "2020-04-26T14:46:19Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> Au contraire, my friend - the claim of its existence was made by another poster and I merely said “Extraordinary claims …”
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> I have no burden of proof.

[Government sponsored Islamophobia.](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/india-s-new-anti-muslim-law-shows-broad-allure-right-ncna1112446)

[Hindu Nationalism and violence.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India)

[Dark face of racism in India.](https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/india/the-dark-face-of-indian-racism-1.61161168)

[Unspoken reality of racism in India (video).](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEMneKKHQFE)

What’s your next move?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/320 "2020-04-26T14:58:58Z")

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> [@When did you last pay with cash since this began?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-last-pay-with-cash-since-this-began/852408/73):
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> > [@When did you last pay with cash since this began?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/when-did-you-last-pay-with-cash-since-this-began/852408/50):
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> > It’s not, it’s WO2020060606A1
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> You really can’t see three sixes? People don’t want to see.

She’s still spreading horseshit.

I wonder if she’d freak out if she sees the bus route the wife and I take from our apartment to get to Wal-Mart here. Yes, that route is 666.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/321 "2020-04-26T15:12:49Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Yes, that route is 666.

Next stop: Hell. All aboard!

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