# Omnibus "religious people who think they control the virus" thread.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 29, 2020, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616 "2020-03-29T19:40:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/322 "2020-04-26T15:16:40Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> You ignoramus. …whose sitting government has stripped nationality from non-Hindus? Get real.

Wow - pot calling the kettle black :smack: There are no non Hindus who have lost their citizenship - stop reading Al Jazeera.

> [@Monty](#):
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> By the way, Mormons have risen to very high levels in the United States government, as have women. There are even women Mormons in public office.

Tell that to Mitt Romney 🙂

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**Author:** ![am77494](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d2c977/32.png) [@am77494](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/am77494)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/323 "2020-04-26T15:28:03Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> What’s your next move?

You have stumped me 🙂 Hope you are as good on November 03, 2020. Wish you luck.

> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> [Government sponsored Islamophobia.](https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/india-s-new-anti-muslim-law-shows-broad-allure-right-ncna1112446)
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> [Hindu Nationalism and violence.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India)
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> [Dark face of racism in India.](https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/india/the-dark-face-of-indian-racism-1.61161168)
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> [Unspoken reality of racism in India (video).](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEMneKKHQFE)
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> What’s your next move?

[Native Americans and reservation inequality](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_Americans_and_reservation_inequality)

[How Racism Is Destroying America](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/books/review/american-poison-racial-hostility-eduardo-porter.html)

[Black Lives matter](https://blacklivesmatter.com/herstory/)

[A history of anti-Hispanic bigotry in the United States](https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/a-history-of-anti-hispanic-bigotry-in-the-united-states/2019/08/09/5ceaacba-b9f2-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html)

If Americans can claim to have a healthy democracy and are dealing with the above problems, uhh where do they get the high moral ground to point fingers at countries that are doing the same?

Anyways - this has gone farther than I expected, I’ll stop.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/324 "2020-04-26T15:33:46Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> Tell that to Mitt Romney 🙂

What are we telling Mitt Romney: former Governor, former GOP nominee for President and current Senator?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/325 "2020-04-26T15:38:14Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> If Americans can claim to have a healthy democracy and are dealing with the above problems, uhh where do they get the high moral ground to point fingers at countries that are doing the same?
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> Anyways - this has gone farther than I expected, I’ll stop.

I don’t blame you for bowing out. I don’t think you’ve quite got the hang of this cogent argument process. It’s okay. It’s just not your thing.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/326 "2020-04-26T17:56:49Z")

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> [@am77494](#):
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> If Americans can claim to have a healthy democracy and are dealing with the above problems, uhh where do they get the high moral ground to point fingers at countries that are doing the same?
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> Anyways - this has gone farther than I expected, I’ll stop.

We see, admit and are trying to fix the racial problems of our country.  
Can you do the same when it comes to your country?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/327 "2020-04-26T18:14:51Z")

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[Tony Spell is on house arrest](https://www.wafb.com/2020/04/25/la-pastor-tony-spell-placed-house-arrest/), but [Kenneth Copeland has ended the virus](https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/04/26/scamvangelist-taking-credit-for-california-heat-wave-declares-covid-19-over/).

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/328 "2020-04-28T00:32:23Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Kenneth Copeland has ended the virus](https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/04/26/scamvangelist-taking-credit-for-california-heat-wave-declares-covid-19-over/).

He’s demanding a heatwave, a supernatural heatwave. It isn’t surprising the bullshit is rising.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/329 "2020-04-28T01:42:49Z")

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So its about heat, like supernatural fire? Brimstone, stuff like that. Its not my case, but I’d check for pentagrams.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/330 "2020-04-28T02:11:15Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> He’s demanding a heatwave, a supernatural heatwave. It isn’t surprising the bullshit is rising.

Looks like he’ll get it, Weather Channel says record heat for the southwest. 🔥

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/331 "2020-04-28T02:16:40Z")

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But no humidity! 😁 He didn’t mention humidity did he. Heh

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/332 "2020-04-28T03:52:59Z")

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SuntanLotion is the last person on the planet who should be mocking bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2020, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/333 "2020-04-28T03:59:51Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Looks like he’ll get it, Weather Channel says record heat for the southwest. 🔥

Nah, he’s talking about Old Testament stuff.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/334 "2020-04-29T08:38:47Z")

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A crowd of [Close to 2,500 Hasidic Jews crowd Brooklyn streets for funeral of rabbi who died of coronavirus](https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-thousands-gather-rabbi-funeral-brooklyn-20200429-a5iuoqennnc47fdtdldw4adh3i-story.html).

Bill De Blasio was so angry he went down there in person to yell at them.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/335 "2020-04-29T20:23:23Z")

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Yeah, and now de Blaisio is getting crap for it.

I think it would would have been better had de Blasio been more specific WHICH Jewish community was at fault here (and I do very much hold them at fault) but even if he had some people would have still cried “bigot!”. There is a very serious problem with religious types wanting exceptions to public health rules during the pandemic and frankly they’re full of shit. If the harm would be just to themselves that would be one thing but this virus _spreads_. They’re endangering other people with their antics.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/336 "2020-04-29T21:43:08Z")

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I know of one church that is having nine person services. You go to their website and sign up for the service you want. They have two clergy, and a facility that is big enough to have two seperate services at the same time, with seperate exits and entrances, and the two groups never meeting. with time in between services to sanitize chairs and such. Things like bulletins are tossed after one use. On Sundays they have at least six or seven services in a row, shorter than usual of course. I think on Easter there were nineteen, for a total of 171 people attending. Gotta be rough on the clergy, I hope they don’t burn out.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/337 "2020-04-29T22:12:29Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I know of one church that is having nine person services. You go to their website and sign up for the service you want. They have two clergy, and a facility that is big enough to have two seperate services at the same time, with seperate exits and entrances, and the two groups never meeting. with time in between services to sanitize chairs and such. Things like bulletins are tossed after one use. On Sundays they have at least six or seven services in a row, shorter than usual of course. I think on Easter there were nineteen, for a total of 171 people attending. Gotta be rough on the clergy, I hope they don’t burn out.

The problem is that those two priests are meeting over 80 people each throughout the day.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2020, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/338 "2020-04-29T22:41:28Z")

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I’m sure they take precautions. Like putting the Communion host in a little pocket in a beanbag, then tossing it out to the communicant…

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/339 "2020-04-30T00:30:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> The problem is that those two priests are meeting over 80 people each throughout the day.

They touch nobdy. The Host is offered in individual waxed paper packets. The tiny individual glasses for the wine are picked out by the communicant and afterwards placed in a basket to be washed later. No glass is ever used twice in a day. Chairs in the little chapel areas are places seven or eight feet apart. They are doing nothing to endanger anyone knowingly.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/340 "2020-04-30T00:37:27Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I’m sure they take precautions. Like putting the Communion host in a little pocket in a beanbag, then tossing it out to the communicant…

Hackysack might be better… no hands!

And _The Holy Hackysack_ has a nice ring to it.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-religious-people-who-think-they-control-the-virus-thread/850616/341 "2020-04-30T00:41:05Z")

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I’m ashamed and disgusted that a bunch of very Jewish Jews would publically act like such idiots.

Let’s look at the man most Jews regard as the greatest sage since Moses- Rabbi Avraham Moses Ben Maimon. He’s known as both Rambam (no seriously) and Maimonides. What did this man do when he wasn’t busy being a Talmud scholar? He was a doctor. Would Maimonides advise us to follow the medical advice of a bunch of doctors and avoid gathering in crowds? I think it’s clear he would.

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