# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2470 "2022-02-12T16:50:14Z")

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> **[The Ottawa trucker protest is rooted in extremism, a national security expert...](https://www.npr.org/2022/02/10/1079842220/ottawa-trucker-convoy-protest)**
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> Groups with conspiratorial beliefs and anti-government views have been trying for years to organize a convoy. Vaccine mandates helped give their plan enough momentum in Ottawa, one expert says.

> In fact, extremist groups are at the core of the movement, Stephanie Carvin, [a national security expert, tells](https://one.npr.org/?sharedMediaId=1079792156:1079792157)[_Morning Edition._](https://one.npr.org/?sharedMediaId=1079792156:1079792157) Carvin reports groups with conspiratorial beliefs, anti-government and bigoted views have been trying for years to organize a convoy, but vaccine mandates helped to finally give their plan enough momentum in Ottawa…
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> Those fatigued with lockdown-induced economic and social struggles resonate with the trucker protest’s messages against COVID-19 mandates, even though at its core, the movement’s roots are firmly based in violent extremist ideologies, Carvin explains.

‘I’m tired of COVID. Let’s join the Nazis!’

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2471 "2022-02-12T16:54:49Z")

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I’m annoyed that my preferred brand of marmalade has been out of stock for three weeks. I’m thinking of joining NAMBLA.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2472 "2022-02-12T16:56:12Z")

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I find your proclivities deeply disturbing.

Who has a preferred brand of marmalade, anyway ?

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2473 "2022-02-12T17:02:53Z")

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You may want to revise that comment once you try marmalade made by Quince & Apple. Less sweet and a little bitter, but still a treat. The flavor is really complex, almost like a citrusy chutney.

I ask for a jar for my birthday and Christmas every year.

> **[Orange Marmalade with Lemons | Fromagination Artisan Cheese](https://fromagination.com/product/orange-marmalade-with-lemons/)**
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> Fromagination features Quince & Apple's Orange Marmalade with Lemons - It's made here in Madison, and if a preserve can be sunny, this one definitely is.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2474 "2022-02-12T21:30:30Z")

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Yes, they changed their minds,

> [The (University of Alabama) trustees](https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/11/us/university-alabama-autherine-lucy-hall-trnd/index.html) reversed a February 3 decision to name the building Lucy-Graves Hall after its first Black student and civil rights activist Autherine Lucy Foster and Bibb Graves, a former Alabama governor and a Ku Klux Klan leader.

but they came up with the idea ITFP, and it took a week of shouting for them to come around. That is one stupid klavern of Oeddies.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2475 "2022-02-12T21:37:20Z")

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_Who_ changed their minds? Your post followed one about marmalade.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2476 "2022-02-12T21:56:56Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> _Who_ changed their minds?

It was definitely not because of the preserves,

> [@trustee John England Jr](#):
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> This has been a challenging time. The work group in making its recommendations certainly intended for that paired name to generate educational moments that can help us learn from our complex and rich history,
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> Somehow, the honoring of Autherine Lucy Foster sort of took the background and that’s not what we wanted, We’ve heard enough from people whose opinion matter to us – students, faculty, staff – that we can do that in a better way than what we’ve done.

“Complex and rich history”, except, stay clear of that damn CRT.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2477 "2022-02-13T03:27:17Z")

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Recently, Billie Eilish stopped a concert because a fan in the audience was having an asthma attack, and she wanted to make sure that the fan got help. Now, Kanye West has announced that he will not attend the Coachella concert unless Billie Eilish apologizes to Travis Scott. She never said anything about Travis Scott. She stopped a concert to help a fan.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2478 "2022-02-13T03:31:39Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Now, Kanye West has announced that he will not attend the Coachella concert unless Billie Eilish apologizes to Travis Scott.

That’s odd, Mr West is ordinarily circumspect in his relationships with others.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2479 "2022-02-13T03:34:25Z")

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Tulsi Gabbard tells Fucker Carlson that Biden should just tell Putin that Ukraine won’t join NATO, and everything will be fine,

> **[Tulsi’s Twisted Theory: Biden Actually Wants a Russian Invasion](https://www.thedailybeast.com/tulsis-twisted-theory-biden-actually-wants-a-russian-invasion)**
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> The former Hawaii congresswoman suggested Biden should just give Russia what it wants and promise Ukraine will never join NATO.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2480 "2022-02-13T04:05:18Z")

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That’s right, we’ll get peace in our time if only we give the aggressor what they want.

Dollars to donuts neither Carlson nor Gabbard has heard the phrase “peace in our time” nor do they understand what it means.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2481 "2022-02-13T05:08:11Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Dollars to donuts neither Carlson nor Gabbard has heard the phrase “peace in our time”

Doesn’t Gabbard have a track-record of having sympathies for Russia or something like that? Her remark may not be so unexpected, coming from her.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2482 "2022-02-13T07:26:29Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> I’m thinking of joining NAMBLA.

You really should! If you are a marmalade connoisseur, I encourage you to join the North American Marmalade Brunch Love Association. (Or the “Marmalobby” as it is called by those in the know.)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2483 "2022-02-13T09:51:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Tulsi Gabbard tells Fucker Carlson that Biden should just tell Putin that Ukraine won’t join NATO, and everything will be fine,

Fuck that. If Putin wants the right to an opinion about actions NATO will or will not take (let alone veto power over any of them) he can _START_ by applying for membership. And if he wants anyone to believe that he doesn’t intend to invade, he can start with a good-faith gesture.

Removing Russian troops from Ukraine and renouncing his so-called “annexation” of Crimea would do nicely.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2484 "2022-02-13T11:49:57Z")

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I hope this isn’t going to turn into another Ukraine invasion thread. Just sayin’.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2485 "2022-02-13T12:53:34Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Kanye West

That is as long as the post would have needed to be to qualify for this thread, ISTM.

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**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2486 "2022-02-13T15:22:55Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> But I think a crucial element is at play the world over. Maybe it is just part of human nature (not ALL humans) to get energized and feel pride in being a right asshole to someone else. That someone can be “the government” or authority in general, or “ _those people_ ”. These various flags give these people a sense of belonging to the right asshole tribe, wherever it is and wherever the flag originated.

Yes, human nature to join some group with the feeling that “they have my back”, or “I’m part of the group.”

I’ve read of this  
being _one reason_ for “gay until graduation”.  
for any sort of religion that requires a huge commitment and draws people into a larger “family”.  
for and even WWII reenactors who portray the Nazi side (the particular article made it very clear that these people were not neo-Nazi’s).

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2487 "2022-02-13T16:23:21Z")

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Certainly, the need for belonging is a powerful motivator, but I am more curious about the “being an asshole” aspect and why that is such a strong draw specifically.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2488 "2022-02-13T17:43:30Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Confederate flags in Canada?

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Yes. Confederate flags in Canada.
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> While it may seem strange that Canadians rally behind a flag that was part of the dark and evil history of a completely different country, consider that there are assholes in America that rally behind a flag that was part of the dark and evil history of a completely different country (the Nazis).

[Some Canadians apparently have been laboring under the impression that it’s a Union Jack.](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/why-the-confederate-flag-is-surprisingly-abundant-in-canada)

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2489 "2022-02-13T17:48:57Z")

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From that article: Colonial Canada, for the most part, was actually an unlikely supporter of the Confederacy during the Civil War.

Huh. I’d love to learn more about that spy headquarters they mentioned too.

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