# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2870 "2022-03-24T19:04:34Z")

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I think it bolsters the notion that them just ain’t that smart.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2871 "2022-03-24T19:23:38Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Ugh, even growing up it was well-known that if you were openly a white supremacist, you’d find a home in Idaho.

There was a bit on Almost Live! I saw about 30 years ago, where John Keister (I think it was) was telling people what they need to know about the Pacific Northwest. He had a map behind him. He said that Oregon was known for making athletic shoes, Washington was known for nuclear weapons from Hanford, and Idaho was known for its White Supremacists. He summed it up, pointing out each state, ‘Nikes, Nukes, and Nazis.’

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2872 "2022-03-24T19:30:41Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> He summed it up, pointing out each state, ‘Nikes, Nukes, and Nazis.’

I miss _Almost Live!_ so much.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2873 "2022-03-24T19:52:57Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I miss _Almost Live!_ so much.

Did you want to be like Billy?

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MjvSYHjsRBE/hqdefault.jpg "Billy Quan - Tricks of Fury") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjvSYHjsRBE)

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2874 "2022-03-24T20:15:16Z")

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No, I wanted to be one of the High-Fivin’ White Guys.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/3507Y1am118/maxresdefault.jpg "High Fiven White Guys Downtown Adventure") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3507Y1am118)

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2875 "2022-03-24T20:16:02Z")

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Quite some years ago I was reading an article in a church magazine that my mother had. The young pastor, author of the article, served a congregation in Idaho; There was a picture of him in his clerical shirt, blonde, blue eyes, and really muscular. In the article he was addressing the problems of white supremacy and nationalistic militias. He said he’d had problems, because due to his name and appearance a lot of folks assumed he “he was one of them” and acted surprised that he wasn’t as racist as they were.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2876 "2022-03-24T20:43:37Z")

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Didn’t he also just pick up the Idaho state shape and move it into the Gulf of Mexico so it could be geographically where it already is culturally?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2877 "2022-03-24T20:54:12Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Did you want to be like Billy?

That would mean I have to behave myself.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2878 "2022-03-27T19:27:20Z")

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[Plan workplace massacree](https://www.thedailybeast.com/kevin-michael-jerman-of-nephi-ut-charged-after-boss-found-employee-hit-list-on-desk), write it out in detail, call in sick, leaving assault script on desk where boss might notice it.

> [@plan–the affidavit says–read](#):
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> _Bring 9 mm with 3 clips = 36 rounds; Bring 9mm assault rifle with 2 extended clips = 20 rounds; Bring Smith & Wesson .22 caliber with extended mags, 3 = 65 rounds; First take out two in shop 2; Then take out who ever [sic] is in loadout 2; Then the mineral office 3; Then whoever is in the hand add area 2 or 3; Next take out skid loader operator 1; Then the office take out 3. Then one in CUG loadout._
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> _14 Total kills. Have to take out internet so no calls from landline. Build cell jammer so signals could be jammed. If police arrive take a position high up to snipe use .308 for this._

The suspect was an IraqWar vet with the skills and equipment to do this.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2879 "2022-03-27T19:48:43Z")

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From the article @eschereal just cited:

> Jerman suffers from headaches and migraines “constantly,” and has continuously battled depression and PTSD, he said. He told cops he had a traumatic brain injury, along with high blood pressure, high cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, joint pain, and Parkinson’s disease.
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> “Kevin has a ton of medications that he takes on a daily basis

I’m not at all sure that it’s stupidity that’s the issue here.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2880 "2022-03-27T20:28:01Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Bring Smith & Wesson .22 caliber with extended mags, 3 = 65 rounds;

I question his sanity, and his math.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2881 "2022-03-28T09:43:24Z")

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One’s in the chamber?

OK I got nuthin’

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2882 "2022-03-28T14:38:56Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I’m not at all sure that it’s stupidity that’s the issue here.

I’ll understand the damage to him from the TBI, and how I’m sure the VA let him down, but nothing you take for high blood pressure, high cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, joint pain\* and Parkinson turns you into a mass murderer.

\* unless it’s crack or heroin

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2883 "2022-03-28T16:02:20Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> One’s in the chamber?

I thought, _maybe_, but in that case you’re talking 64+1 bullets. You can’t divide 64 evenly by 3 (the number of magazines). If you somehow had some kind of 21 bullet extended magazine, that’s 63 bullets plus a chambered one, for 64 total. 65 doesn’t make any sense. 63, 64, 66, or 67 could potentially work. Just not 65.

I guess you could maybe not fully load every mag, but why?!

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2884 "2022-03-28T17:12:59Z")

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Different sized magazines?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2885 "2022-03-28T17:33:52Z")

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Maybe. I mean, I have 10 round and 15 round mags for my pistol. (10 round mags are easier to carry and conceal, 15 rounds are for the range so I don’t reload as often.) But if I was doing the math, I’d note the difference between them in the planning.

(Also, I haven’t carried my pistol for years if anyone is wondering. Luckily I feel no reason to. It rarely leaves my safe.)

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2886 "2022-03-28T17:38:24Z")

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Maybe he only had 65 rounds in the house?

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2887 "2022-03-28T18:00:20Z")

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Maybe he just made up a number because there weren’t any rounds in the house. He works in a Russian armory and he sold all the ammo for food and vodka.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2888 "2022-03-28T18:36:07Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> There was a bit on Almost Live! I saw about 30 years ago, where John Keister (I think it was) was telling people what they need to know about the Pacific Northwest. He had a map behind him. He said that Oregon was known for making athletic shoes, Washington was known for nuclear weapons from Hanford, and Idaho was known for its White Supremacists. He summed it up, pointing out each state, ‘Nikes, Nukes, and Nazis.’

I remember that! It was well done and really memorable…obviously.

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**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/2889 "2022-03-28T20:43:52Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> I’ll understand the damage to him from the TBI, and how I’m sure the VA let him down, but nothing you take for high blood pressure, high cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, joint pain\* and Parkinson turns you into a mass murderer.

No. But being a traumatized army vet, who has had training to kill and probably did, might. Not to mention having TBI AND brain-splitting headaches as a bonus. Not even necessary to add medication to this for possible cause.

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