# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 157
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3130 "2022-05-13T04:49:24Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > First, it’s “us the people”. No, them right-wingers and their hangers-on always use “we the people” no matter where in the sentence it appears. It is taken of course from the opening line of the Constitution, but has become a stock phrase with them. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3131 "2022-05-13T05:35:32Z")
Ee’d Plebnista! ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3132 "2022-05-13T12:59:33Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > First, it’s “us the people”. > > No, them right-wingers and their hangers-on always use “we the people” no matter where in the sentence it appears. It is taken of course from the opening line of the Constitution, but has become a stock phrase with them. Ah, that well known defining document of Canada… The United States Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3133 "2022-05-13T13:19:28Z")
I thought it was The Uniform Commercial Code. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3134 "2022-05-13T16:50:12Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Ee’d Plebnista! You know, I never parsed out how they got that from the Preamble. ‘E’ from ‘We’? ‘e’d’ from ‘United’? 'Ple from ‘[peo]ple’? And the rest…? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3135 "2022-05-13T18:16:33Z")
The ink got smeared, really badly. Have you seen it? It is all but entirely [illegible chickscratch](http://www.theindianreporter.com/historical_documents/archives/constitution_copies/ConstitutionFULL_p1.jpg) on a _good_ day. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3136 "2022-05-13T19:48:53Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > It is all but entirely [illegible chickscratch](http://www.theindianreporter.com/historical_documents/archives/constitution_copies/ConstitutionFULL_p1.jpg) on a _good_ day. Really? Look at these three words written larger than the rest, with a special pride never written before or since. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2022, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3137 "2022-05-17T16:44:16Z")
It’s all fun and games until she decides that her followers need to murder others ala the Manson gang, or kill themselves ala Heaven’s Gate. Then it will be “how could this have happened?” and “Nobody could have foreseen this.” These people are following the orders of a mentally ill, potentially dangerous person. And I mean that, not in a pejorative sense, but in an accurately descriptive sense. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3138 "2022-05-20T18:20:32Z")
Tech firms are selling the locations of people who have used abortion clinics, and, until recently, were selling their addresses. > **[Warren Calls Out Tech Firms for Selling Abortion Clinic Patients’ Location Data](https://truthout.org/articles/warren-calls-out-tech-firms-for-selling-abortion-clinic-patients-location-data/)** > > Data firms were recently shown to be selling data on where clinic patients go after their visits and where they live. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3139 "2022-05-20T18:42:34Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Tech firms are selling the locations of people who have used abortion clinics, and, until recently, were selling their addresses. Aside from the despicable ethics, how is it not massively _illegal_ to be doing this with data that is medical histories? Is there some loophole that legislation only applies to the medical providers, and not third parties that somehow obtain access to the information? ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3140 "2022-05-20T19:08:04Z")
It sounds like the firms are selling information like, “Person X stayed at the Planned Parenthood for two hours, then went to this address, which we think the live at.” All of that is publicly available information, therefore legal to sell. Did person X have an abortion or a breast exam? Who knows? but these evil sons of bitches are gonna sell the information to the Stasi anyhow. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3141 "2022-05-20T19:10:41Z")
Brief hijack: for any who are interested, John Oliver covered data brokers for an episode of “Last Week Tonight:” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/wqn3gR1WTcA/maxresdefault.jpg "Data Brokers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqn3gR1WTcA) The TL;DR is: it’s amazing what info can be gleaned about you, legally, and is sold every single day. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3142 "2022-05-20T19:12:37Z")
If you haven’t done so already, I recommend reviewing which apps on your smartphone are allowed access to location data. I’ve reduced the number to only a very, very few. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3143 "2022-05-20T19:28:02Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I recommend reviewing which apps on your smartphone are allowed access to location data. I’ve reduced the number to only a very, very few. Yes, and I’m not happy about a recent change on my Samsung phone which forces location permission for “Device Services”. It’s obviously something to do with Samsung rather than some malicious third party app, but I’m still not happy that it’s not transparent what it’s doing, nor why you cannot turn off the location permission. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3144 "2022-05-20T19:46:03Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > If you haven’t done so already, I recommend reviewing which apps on your smartphone are allowed access to location data. I’ve reduced the number to only a very, very few. It only takes one, and it could be one you would be very hard put to do without. For example, Google maps needs to know where I am to function. I have it set to have access to my location only when I am using it, and I make sure to close the app when I am done. I’m considering changing it to “ask every time.” ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3145 "2022-05-21T02:06:17Z")
Remember the People’s Grand High Glorious Freedumb Convoy? Well, things have been going badly for them (yes, even _more_ badly than last time they made the news…): [https://twitter.com/Crime\_sprees/status/1527817790970859526](https://twitter.com/Crime_sprees/status/1527817790970859526) > The livestreams of the people’s truckers convoy is insane. Leaders have run off in a luxury RV with the money, the food, and at least some of the TENTS. The convoy is calling for BLOOD. #PeoplesConvoy ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3146 "2022-05-21T02:27:58Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > things have been going badly for them Have they considered driving to Moscow to demand that Putin restore their funding? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3147 "2022-05-21T03:32:40Z")
So the leaders grifted the convoy. Imagine my shock. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3148 "2022-05-21T05:59:26Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Aside from the despicable ethics, how is it not massively _illegal_ to be doing this with data that is medical histories? **Is there some loophole that legislation only applies to the medical providers, and not third parties that somehow obtain access to the information?** (Bold added.) I believe this is so. Do we have a leegle beegle here who can comment more authoritatively? ETA: That is entirely apart from @Mollie_Magill 's remark that the information is public to begin with and anyone can do anything with that. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3149 "2022-05-21T19:28:59Z")
It is not public information to the extent that you or I or anyone can casually look someone up and find out where they are right now if that person is not already making that information available to whomever. And finding out where she has been tarrying, for how long, closes in on stalker territory. In some jurisdictions, stalking is illegal. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=156) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=158)