# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 168
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3350 "2022-06-10T20:12:51Z")
Because… they are no more dangerous to a young child than any other breed? (I only allow my baby to go walkies with a Golden Retriever.) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3351 "2022-06-10T20:14:39Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Because… they are no more dangerous to a young child than any other breed? Exactly. Making a special note of the breed feels like some sort of inference about the family, but it’s entirely possible I’m seeing something that isn’t there. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3352 "2022-06-10T20:15:23Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > it’s entirely possible I’m seeing something that isn’t there. Well, you’re not seeing the sarcasm that _is_ there. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3353 "2022-06-10T20:16:00Z")
Clearly. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3354 "2022-06-10T20:19:37Z")
If you want to start a thread making the case that Pit bulls are sweet and loving dogs and don’t deserve their violent reputation, you are of course free to do so. But it’s disingenuous to imply that this is widely accepted and that it’s incomprehensible why the breed would be mentioned in the story. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3355 "2022-06-10T20:22:54Z")
Perhaps I will. I’d always heard that a dog’s behavior is down to both nature and nurture, but that’s not germane to the thread so I’ll leave it there. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3356 "2022-06-10T20:26:14Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I’d always heard that a dog’s behavior is down to both nature and nurture Since the “nature” part that _contributes_ to behavior is the breed, what is your objection? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3357 "2022-06-10T20:30:21Z")
Just that, obviously, any dog can be a mean one if treated badly and pit bulls have possibly gotten an exaggeratedly bad rap. Granted, according to the CDC pitts are responsible for a large amount of overall dog bites, so I’m quite open to being wrong. ---
**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3358 "2022-06-10T20:54:15Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > The pit bull is an odd detail to emphasize in the story. I agree, it’s the unsupervised child outside that’s the danger. That the “scary” dog is on a leash held by the toddler and going for a walk about is the least offensive part of the family’s situation. But will the kid let go if Scary sees a rabbit? So the lady gets fined which does zilch to improve the situation at home. And now the kid gets leashed maybe crated and Scary the dog doesn’t get walked. Meanest dog in my neighborhood that used to run free was the old golden Oscar that hated school busses, barked and chased it twice a day. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3359 "2022-06-10T21:30:12Z")
> [@chela](#): > > Meanest dog in my neighborhood that used to run free was the old golden And I’ve seen affectionate tame lions that wouldn’t hurt a fly. It’s _all_ about nurture, right? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3360 "2022-06-10T21:42:02Z")
That pit bull _was_ the child’s supervision and bodyguard. Pit bull bites? I’ll bet anyone who tried to mess with that kid would find out. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3361 "2022-06-10T21:54:28Z")
To me the pit bull breed is relevant to mention. Not because it’s a demonic entity in dog form, waiting to murder anyone who gets within its vicinity. I grew up in a neighborhood with pit bulls and yes, they can be the sweetest and most gentle dogs if treated properly. They’re dogs, not coyotes. It’s relevant because pit bulls are very powerful dogs. If it decides to take off after a car or frisbee with an 18-month-old holding the leash, that kid can’t control it. Not the way he might if it was a dachshund or chihuahua. It would be like dragging a Cabbage Patch Kid on a rope behind a pickup truck. To me that’s why it’s relevant. If you said it was a Great Dane or a St. Bernard I’d have the same reaction. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3362 "2022-06-10T22:07:59Z")
I can back that. Makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3363 "2022-06-11T01:09:03Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It would be like dragging a Cabbage Patch Kid on a rope behind a pickup truck. I laughed a lot. I’m going to hell, aren’t I? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3364 "2022-06-11T01:11:25Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > > > Now _that_ kid needs a gun. > > Why? > > He’s got a pit bull. I’d be willing to bet the dog takes better protective care of the kid than the mom. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3365 "2022-06-11T01:31:08Z")
Why would you think that? Any training (if any at all) was done by the mother, not the kid. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3366 "2022-06-11T02:08:59Z")
Not thinking the dog’s been formally trained by the slattern of a mother, but canines tend to be instinctively protective of their pack, especially the pups. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3367 "2022-06-11T02:16:51Z")
To continue the hijack, there’s zero evidence that it actually was a “pit bull” and not some other “scary” dog like a Rottie or a shepherd mix ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3368 "2022-06-11T03:28:42Z")
You thought elevator surfing was bad… > **[Teenagers in Indonesia are jumping in front of moving trucks for a TikTok...](https://www.insider.com/teens-indonesia-jumping-front-moving-trucks-in-deadly-tiktok-challenge-2022-6)** > > It is believed that the teens in Indonesia were attempting a local social media challenge that loosely translates to "the angel of death." ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3369 "2022-06-11T04:19:24Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > To continue the hijack, there’s zero evidence that it actually was a “pit bull” and not some other “scary” dog like a Rottie or a shepherd mix To a pit bull bigot, they all look alike. [https://pics.me.me/official-police-canine-identification-chart-pit-bull-pit-bull-pit-9401525.png](https://pics.me.me/official-police-canine-identification-chart-pit-bull-pit-bull-pit-9401525.png) ETA: Nothing wrong with Rotties either. Most of the ones I’ve met are as sweet and lovable as any pit bull. Ditto Dobermans. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=167) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=169)