# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3550 "2022-06-29T20:45:06Z")

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I wonder if My People could get this SC to order that All You People be circumcised.

Hm.

Apologies in advance if this works …

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3551 "2022-06-29T21:52:58Z")

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A 73 year old Johnston County Commissioner arrested for indecent liberties with a 13-year old child. The article doesn’t specify, but his campaign materials stress that he’s a Christian, Conservative Republican.

> **[Johnston County Commissioner Arrested](https://jocoreport.com/johnston-county-commissioner-arrested/)**
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> June 29, 2022 Johnston County Jail Mugshot SMITHFIELD – Johnston County Commissioner Richard D. Braswell was arrested this morning (Wednesday) by the Johnston County Sheriff’s Office. C…

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3552 "2022-06-29T22:07:27Z")

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What does “indecent liberties with a child” mean in legalese? It could mean anything from exhibitionism to rape. Is there a strict legal definition for the term?

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3553 "2022-06-29T22:12:52Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> What does “indecent liberties with a child” mean in legalese? It could mean anything from exhibitionism to rape. Is there a strict legal definition for the term?&nbsp;

Looks like it happened in North Carolina. I believe that this is the relevant statute:

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> § 14-202.1. Taking indecent liberties with children.
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> (a) A person is guilty of taking indecent liberties with children if, being 16 years of age or more and at least five years older than the child in question, he either:
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> - (1) Willfully takes or attempts to take any immoral, improper, or indecent liberties with any child of either sex under the age of 16 years for the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire; or
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> - (2) Willfully commits or attempts to commit any lewd or lascivious act upon or with the body or any part or member of the body of any child of either sex under the age of 16 years.
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> (b) Taking indecent liberties with children is punishable as a Class F felony

It doesn’t really clear anything up.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3554 "2022-06-29T22:15:40Z")

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Thanks, but you’re right, that doesn’t clear anything. Reads like an age old law written by Puritans who couldn’t express the fact of the matter, maybe it was.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3555 "2022-06-29T22:41:09Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> § 14-202.1. Taking indecent liberties with children.
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> (a) A person is guilty of taking indecent liberties with children if, being 16 years of age or more and at least five years older than the child in question, he either:
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> - (1) Willfully takes or attempts to take any immoral, improper, or indecent liberties with any child of either sex under the age of 16 years for the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire; or
> - (2) Willfully commits or attempts to commit any lewd or lascivious act upon or with the body or any part or member of the body of any child of either sex under the age of 16 years.
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> (b) Taking indecent liberties with children is punishable as a Class F felony

Granted I’m not a lawyer, but this is how I read it.

If someone is 16 years old and tries or succeeds in committing a sexual, lewd, or lascivious act with someone who is 11 or younger, they’re guilty of taking indecent liberties with a child.

If someone is more than 16 years old and tries or succeeds in committing a sexual, lewd, or lascivious act with someone who is at least 5 years younger than they are, they’re guilty of taking indecent liberties with a child.

I’m guessing the acts in question can be anything from exposing yourself, being a peeping tom, feeling up the child or having the child feel you up, all the way up to actually having sex with the child.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3556 "2022-06-29T22:49:37Z")

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> [@Morgyn](#):
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> all the way up to actually having sex with the child.

That would be 14-27.23. Statutory rape of a child by an adult at minimum. Too long, really, to quote, but you can [read more here](http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/ByArticle/Chapter_14/Article_7B.pdf) (PDF warning).

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3557 "2022-06-29T23:07:31Z")

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R. Kelly sentenced to 30 years in jail for nine counts of sexual abuse.  
He still faces counts of possession of child p\*rn in several venues.

> **[R. Kelly Sentenced to 30 Years in Prison: ‘I Pray That God Reaches Your...](https://variety.com/2022/music/news/r-kelly-sentenced-1235305953/)**
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> R. Kelly was sentenced to 30 years in prison in a New York court on Wednesday. The 55-year-old singer, whose full name is Robert Sylvester Kelly, was convicted of racketeering and eight counts of v…

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3558 "2022-06-30T00:15:32Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> That would be 14-27.23. Statutory rape of a child by an adult at minimum. Too long, really, to quote, but you can [read more here](http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/PDF/ByArticle/Chapter_14/Article_7B.pdf) (PDF warning).

So it’s everything short of statutory rape?

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3559 "2022-06-30T00:32:34Z")

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That’s going to depend on the case law of North Carolina. What they define as immoral, improper, or indecent and lewd or lascivious is for the courts to decide.

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**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3560 "2022-06-30T00:34:13Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> That’s going to depend on the case law of North Carolina. What they define as immoral, improper, or indecent and lewd or lascivious is for the courts to decide. -

Likely depends on the social prominence or wealth of the accused.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3561 "2022-06-30T00:50:03Z")

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Which thread is appropriate for this? Stupid Motherfuckers, for sure.  
Look at this fucking nimrod. He’s the Republican candidate for Governor next time around. He got Trump’s endorsement, and celebrated by, even though he’s by all accounts a grown ass man, cosplaying as Trump himself.  
Republicans, what does it take to embarrass you anymore? For fucks sake.

> **[Conservative Illinois state Sen. Darren Bailey wins GOP primary for governor](https://www.npr.org/2022/06/27/1107063641/illinois-governor-primary-democrat-pritzker-gop-bailey-griffin-irvin-trump)**
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> Republican Darren Bailey, who is backed by former President Donald Trump, will face Democrat and billionaire Gov. JB Pritzker on the Illinois ballot for governor in November.

Bootlicking fucking turd.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3562 "2022-06-30T00:56:45Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Look at this fucking nimrod… He got Trump’s endorsement

To give him credit, he also got Pritzker’s endorsement. Pritzker ran ads to help him win the primary, because as the outstanding Republican nimrod he will be easier to beat.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3563 "2022-06-30T00:59:07Z")

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I tried to link just to the picture, but was a webp or something, and it wouldn’t work. But that fuckwad next to Trump, dressed just as exactly as he could… Holy fuck.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3564 "2022-06-30T01:00:04Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Look at this fucking nimrod. He’s the Republican candidate for Governor next time around.

On the bright side, Richard Irvin’s idiotic commercials equating BLM with “radical woke mobs” should cease for at least a couple of years.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3565 "2022-06-30T01:03:10Z")

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Yeah, Irvin totally capitalized on equating The Police Murder Of George Floyd unrest with BLM and the simple concept at the core of BLM. Which, IMO, was weird for a Black guy to do.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3566 "2022-06-30T01:05:34Z")

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Anyway, sorry for the digression. All those Republicans, all of them, especially the ones who dress like Trump as they stand next to him, can go fuck themselves.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3567 "2022-06-30T01:15:25Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> that fuckwad next to Trump, dressed just as exactly as he could

Yes, it was noticeable even in the smaller image.

The photo is odd, though. The blue “Save America” podium looks like it has been crudely photoshopped in. Is it just a trick of the light?

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3568 "2022-06-30T01:18:12Z")

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It was a Republican rally. Best to chalk the whole thing up as a trick.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3569 "2022-06-30T01:45:33Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> as the outstanding Republican nimrod he will be easier to beat.

Ah – when did I hear that before?

Oh, yes. It was about some guy with orange hair in early 2016.

(Sure hope Pritzker’s right this time; but it’s a risky tactic.)

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