# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 191
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3810 "2022-07-17T17:35:38Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > How would that work when it comes to SovCits-Expulsion to _where?_ To avoid infringing on any state claim, I propose [Bir Tawil](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bir_Tawil). ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3811 "2022-07-17T17:42:30Z")
I say give them a tiny remote island, maybe in the Pacific. The _Republic of Howland, Baker and Jarvis_ has [a flag,](https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/um!rbhj.html) though, for a time, had too many modern conveniences and hotels. So maybe go with Nikumaroro Island? But, you know, it really doesn’t matter. Within days those SovCits will strangle each other over minor points like designing a flag (the Gold Fringers would go crazy and slay most of the Fringeless Four Hundred). ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3812 "2022-07-17T17:45:54Z")
SeaOrg. Let them fight it out with the Church of Unitology. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3813 "2022-07-17T18:18:13Z")
I like your out-of-the-box thinking but that area already has enough conflict, ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3814 "2022-07-17T20:41:59Z")
SovCits are almost cute. Well, for a minute. Like a toddler stamping their feet. Fine I say. Remove the license plates from their cars. Notify their insurance companies, banks and all institutions. Bye bye social security and medicare too. Unless you’re REALLY a person that can do it on your own in national forest, and want to, well, you have totally fucked yourself. They think taxes are bad? Um. Ha. Hahhahhahahhaah. Have fun asshole. What of course would happen to these ‘free’ people is they would become criminals. Not much other choice. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3815 "2022-07-17T21:30:39Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > What it _should_ do is make them ‘outlaws’ in the original sense of the word: Literally outside the law. You can steal their stuff, injure, and even kill them with no consequence to you. Within limits, of course. I’m thinking 1 a day, 1 in possession. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3816 "2022-07-18T01:03:33Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I say give them a tiny remote island, maybe in the Pacific. > **[Rockall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall)** > > Rockall (/ˈrɒkɔːl/) is an uninhabitable granite islet in the North Atlantic Ocean. The United Kingdom claims that Rockall lies within its territorial sea and is part of its territory, but this claim is not recognised by Ireland. It and the nearby skerries of Hasselwood Rock and Helen's Reef are the only emergent parts of the Rockall Plateau. The rock was formed by magmatism as part of the North Atlantic Igneous Province during the Paleogene. > Rockall's approximate distances from the closest is... ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3817 "2022-07-18T01:12:55Z")
That’s a very nice queer-friendly flag Rockall has. (great - stuck with opening guitar lick of UFO’s “Rock Bottom” in my head now) ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3818 "2022-07-18T02:39:50Z")
A prosecutor in eastern Kentucky has been accused of offering [legal advice in exchange for nude photos and videos](https://www.thedailybeast.com/ronnie-goldy-kentucky-proesecutor-promised-to-help-defendant-if-she-sent-nudes-report-says) of the female defendant. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3819 "2022-07-18T03:00:48Z")
workin it pro boner, right on. hot Buddy (Ronnie Goldy - not bad name) looking like Brian Trottier just after he retired. Like, gross. ETA: Or a considerably younger version of Doug Prishpreed. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3820 "2022-07-18T04:38:23Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > One of the best moments of my tenure in BIOT A small fortified medieval hilltop village in the Provence-Alpes-Côte d’Azur near Antibes, between Nice and Cannes? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3821 "2022-07-18T06:07:34Z")
> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#): > > Buddy (Ronnie Goldy - not bad name) looking like Brian Trottier just after he retired. Here’s a pic of Ronnie so people know what he looks like. [![](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/06/23/PLOU/25dabdba-8595-45c6-90da-9c902201b544-Screen_Shot_2022-06-17_at_10.35.37_PM.png) ](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2022/06/23/PLOU/25dabdba-8595-45c6-90da-9c902201b544-Screen_Shot_2022-06-17_at_10.35.37_PM.png) Here’s Brian Trottier. [https://static.infofamouspeople.com/avatar/bn2hrsj2a2a8tb9ef7fg\_faces\_trottier-bryan-image.jpg](https://static.infofamouspeople.com/avatar/bn2hrsj2a2a8tb9ef7fg_faces_trottier-bryan-image.jpg) Yeah, I see the resemblance. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3822 "2022-07-18T09:05:47Z")
BIOT = British Indian Ocean Territory. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3823 "2022-07-18T13:31:17Z")
Thank-you, **Atamsama** - most negligent and lazy of me. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3824 "2022-07-18T14:45:19Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > These are people choosing to reject reality around them for something more comforting to them, convinced by the fringe of the fringe. _Gold_ fringe. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3825 "2022-07-18T15:29:22Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > One of the best moments of my tenure in BIOT was when the American defendant told the magistrate, “I’m exercising my rights under the Fifth Amendment”. > [@Monty](#): > > BIOT = British Indian Ocean Territory. Diego Garcia? I’m not sure it makes an American a stupid MFer to mistakenly think they are under U.S. legal jurisdiction, as they would be on Guam. It’s not as dumb as trying to plead the 5th in the U.K. or Germany, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3826 "2022-07-18T16:08:31Z")
Thank you for that elaboration. I was about to channel @I_Love_Me_Vol.I and bitch about the acronym. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3827 "2022-07-18T16:27:00Z")
Heh, I actually remember what Brian Trottier looked like, so I only needed (!) the pic of the creepy prosecutor, but thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3828 "2022-07-18T17:14:25Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > _Gold_ fringe. Nice! ---
**Author:** ![irae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f0a364/32.png) [@irae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irae)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3829 "2022-07-18T17:40:08Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The problem is that American law requires a renunciation of United States citizenship to be performed in front of a United States consular official outside the United States. > **[When U.S. Citizens Can Lose Their U.S. Citizenship](https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/when-us-citizens-can-lose-us-citizenship.html)** > > Limited circumstances in which someone can lose, or give up, U.S. citizenship. Losing U.S. Citizenship or Nationality by Voluntary Act With Specific Intent As for giving up one’s native-born or naturalized U.S. citizenship voluntarily, to do so, a person must both: voluntarily perform any of seven “expatriating” acts defined by law, and perform the act or acts with a conscious desire (or specific intent) to abandon (relinquish) nationality. The expatriating act must be voluntary and take any of seven forms. Committing any of the following acts will create a presumption that it was performed voluntarily with the idea of giving up U.S. citizenship, although the person might later be able to rebut (disprove) this presumption: Becoming a naturalized citizen of another country after age 18. Formally declaring allegiance to a foreign government after age 18. Accepting a position in the government of another country after age 18, if one has citizenship in, or declared allegiance to, that country. Joining the military force of another country either (1) in any capacity if that country is engaged in hostilities against the U.S., or (2) as an officer. Formally renouncing U.S. nationality abroad before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer. Formally renouncing U.S. nationality in the U.S. when the U.S. is at war, if done in writing and with the approval of the U.S. Department of Justice. Being convicted of treason or participating in any attempt to overthrow the U.S. government. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=190) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=192)