# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 195
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3890 "2022-07-21T19:52:59Z")
[Here is a gift link](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/21/us/kentucky-bunker-civil-war.html?unlocked_article_code=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACEIPuomT1JKd6J17Vw1cRCfTTMQmqxCdw_PIxftm3iWka3DKDmwbiPkORIuN_VvQbqlyItEu2TeWXppKMaEuQLltx_UZP1BoT0PghKq4r6k_And_r5OvDCRx1ojRXLs8_HjjMWKzeLghnfjm5UKLdWXuX6zA2SYjJRJgqMZhJ1uqinIMkq3VA6UijIkFqPQiD514QTsSNmLd77SzVUIIaJjRZQrc6wI2R-hcRTrQ-NaX4L4DewhYYknUGDI9uS1vrYMBZ65Eefr3PBUie8HhgLQOCWUOLIehA5U5Qom8hKw-mWGJW4g0u5ognRdA2oD1&smid=url-share) to the New York Times story about the multi-million dollar Kentucky house with an elaborate bunker. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3891 "2022-07-21T20:04:25Z")
Thank you. Wow. I’m sorry about the daughter, but dad sounds like a piece of work… who was attacked by someone who seems to have thought the same things he did. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3892 "2022-07-21T20:13:43Z")
I was bothered a bit by the father assuming that, once Obama had been elected president, societal collapse and civil war were inevitable. Perhaps I’m naïve, but it seems a bit racist. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3893 "2022-07-21T20:17:24Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Perhaps I’m naïve, but it seems a bit racist. And in Kentucky of all places! Who ever would have thought…? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3894 "2022-07-21T20:19:17Z")
A “bit” racist? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3895 "2022-07-21T21:13:11Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > As frustrating and dangerous as this is, it’s also legitimately sad. It’s a delusion that ruins people’s lives. I think that most of their lives were pretty fucked up before they turned to Sov Cit. That’s more of less the draw, if you can just find the right magic words, then you can get all your problems fixed. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3896 "2022-07-21T21:18:43Z")
Yes, that’s exactly my point. These are broken people, and likely have been for a long time. You have to be in order to grab onto this. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2022, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3897 "2022-07-21T21:44:03Z")
This. And I was also bothered by this: > Mr. Morgan did not buy any of this. The attack was so meticulously planned. How could that be the work of an insane person? he asked. I thought the general legal definition of insanity was along the lines of “in a state of mind in which the morality of an action is misjudged or unknown.” Someone who’s schizophrenic and not taking medication could be insane if they’re suffering delusions. Doesn’t mean they’re stupid or unable to think their way through a problem. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3898 "2022-07-22T11:29:27Z")
[GOP candidate for NY Governor Lee Zeldin attacked on stage.](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congressman-lee-zeldin-attacked-during-new-york-state-stump-speech-2022-07-22/) I’m pitting the wannabe killer-this is not a good idea! They’d just use him as a martyr! Oh, and attacking Trumpers is wrong too. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3899 "2022-07-22T12:02:03Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I’m pitting the wannabe killer-this is not a good idea! They’d just use him as a martyr! False flag! ETA OMFG quote from the article: > The suspect was arraigned in Perinton Town Court and released on his own recognizance. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3900 "2022-07-22T12:52:12Z")
No mention of this in any of the stories about this “attack”, but this guy is under investigation for alleged ballot petition fraud. I’m sure you’re all shocked! > “…the New York State Board of Elections has invalidated nearly 13,000 signatures on petitions for Zeldin to appear on the Independence Party line on the ballot, the _Times Union_ reported. That decision came after it was alleged by Andrew Kolstee, secretary of the state’s Libertarian Party, that some 11,000 of Zeldin’s signatures were merely copies of other pages.” [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-who-pushed-2020-election-fraud-claims-accused-of-election-fraud/ar-AAZCyDT](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/republican-who-pushed-2020-election-fraud-claims-accused-of-election-fraud/ar-AAZCyDT) ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3901 "2022-07-22T15:24:47Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > ETA OMFG quote from the article: > > > The suspect was arraigned in Perinton Town Court and released on his own recognizance. He was only charged with second degree attempted assault. Although the word “stab” is used at least a couple of times in the article, the weapon is only described as “a weapon.” My guess from these points is that the weapon was improvised and not, per se, very deadly. I personally think there should be an enhancement for attempted political intimidation or something, but clearly authorities don’t regard it as an attempted assassination. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3902 "2022-07-22T15:45:59Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > clearly authorities don’t regard it as an attempted assassination. In FoxNewsLand, this event was much more important than the entirety of the Jan 6 hearings combined. 2nd only to the assassination of Lincoln. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3903 "2022-07-22T15:46:17Z")
I saw a photo showing one of those cat head-shaped self-defense tools, but I was skimming and didn’t read the article. I’ll see if I can dig up a photo. ETA: Similar to this: [![](https://www.dhresource.com/webp/m/0x0/f2/albu/g2/M00/E8/07/rBVaGlY0pj6AfBX4AANqzi9Tpfo933.jpg) ](https://www.dhresource.com/webp/m/0x0/f2/albu/g2/M00/E8/07/rBVaGlY0pj6AfBX4AANqzi9Tpfo933.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3904 "2022-07-22T15:49:03Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > 2nd only to the assassination of Lincoln. _That_ RINO? ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3905 "2022-07-22T15:50:16Z")
Okay, here’s an image of the weapon from Fox, where they characterize it as a “blade.” [![](https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/07/720/405/LZ1.png?ve=1&tl=1) ](https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/07/720/405/LZ1.png?ve=1&tl=1) ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3906 "2022-07-22T15:51:54Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > In FoxNewsLand, this event was much more important than the entirety of the Jan 6 hearings combined. Which Hannity is claiming actually “exonerated” Trump. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3907 "2022-07-22T16:32:16Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > A Kentucky man spent millions of dollars on a massive house with a 2000 sq ft bunker to protect him and his family from societal collapse. A guy looking for just such a bunker broke into the house, shot the guy, and killed his daughter. [Sounds familiar.](https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/597063/s01-e48-answered-prayers) Couple of ne’er-do-wells enter a survivalist’s bunker and kill him for his stuff; nearly kill his daughter and son-in-law as well after they walk in. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3908 "2022-07-22T17:00:34Z")
The “blade” was a plastic keychain fob. [David Jakubonis used $10 cat keychain in Lee Zeldin attack (nypost.com)](https://nypost.com/2022/07/22/david-jakubonis-used-10-cat-keychain-in-lee-zeldin-attack/) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2022, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/3909 "2022-07-22T17:05:35Z")
Get into plastics son, soon brass knuckles will be made out of them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=194) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=196)