# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5411 "2022-12-05T19:00:17Z")

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The sheriff has posed for pictures with the white nationalist 1/6er who claimed responsibility for it.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5412 "2022-12-05T20:57:22Z")

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I don’t know why you don’t want to post links for your assertions on this story, but never mind, I found it for myself.

I guess I’m content to wait to draw absolute conclusions until at least some of the higher-level investigations have concluded. This sheriff sounds no better than he should be. But nevertheless.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5413 "2022-12-05T21:19:43Z")

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I’m waiting on what the FBI say.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5414 "2022-12-06T01:11:05Z")

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This probably also belongs in the stupid gun news thread.

> **[Florida deputy charged after he 'jokingly' pointed gun, fatally shot fellow...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2022/12/05/florida-deputy-killed-officer-roommate-jokingly-fired-gun/10838796002/)**
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> Deputy Austin Walsh was killed when his roommate "jokingly" pulled the trigger on what he thought was an unloaded gun, authorities said.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5415 "2022-12-06T17:27:59Z")

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Floridaman takes a friend’s goldendoodle out for a walk and, naturally, pauses to [give her a proper schtupping](https://www.fox13news.com/news/clearwater-pd-florida-man-had-sex-with-dog-in-front-of-people-damaged-church-property-mailbox), because, that is always part of dogwalking. Some people (including a young-ish teenager) observe this and inquire as to his intentions. Floridaman becomes upset, runs around hair-on-fire tearing up the joint and is detained whilst trying to steal a car.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5416 "2022-12-06T17:35:02Z")

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Hey, Chad. Do anything interesting over the weekend?

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5417 "2022-12-06T18:00:31Z")

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One of the charges is

> criminal mischief to a place of worship

Yes, I would agree with this.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5418 "2022-12-06T18:16:57Z")

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Dog going to be OK? (you folks have got to remember the important stuff… 😉

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5419 "2022-12-06T18:19:09Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> One of the charges is
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> > criminal mischief to a place of worship
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> Yes, I would agree with this.

That’s a weirdly specific charge. Had he damaged the _Photos with Santa_ setup at a mall, would he have been charged with “criminal mischief to a place of commerce?” Would damage to someone’s front lawn display have been “criminal mischief to a place of residence?” More to the point, even if those categories _do_ exist, do they all share the same sentencing guidelines upon conviction? I don’t mind saying that I would be disturbed (but not surprised) to learn that the answer to all these questions is “No.”

Also, that story doesn’t give us _any_ information about the outcome/aftermath of the incident for the goldendoodle, who is the _real_ victim here.

Stoopid Florida so-called “journalists.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5420 "2022-12-06T18:26:39Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> That’s a weirdly specific charge. Had he damaged the _Photos with Santa_ setup at a mall, would he have been charged with “criminal mischief to a place of commerce?”

It _is_ Florida, after all. Churches are kind of especially sacred there (and, in most cases, also places commerce – the Church of Scientology, for example, is based there).

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5421 "2022-12-06T18:29:45Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> One of the charges is
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> > criminal mischief to a place of worship

Why “to a place of worship” and not “in a place of worship”?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5422 "2022-12-06T18:34:17Z")

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Oddly enough, I don’t care where on the _planet_ it is; I’m against _[crimes] against a place of worship_ being treated differently by whatever legal system is in place locally. It’s dangerously close to permitting the concept of blasphemy to have legal meaning (which I’m also against).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5423 "2022-12-06T18:36:49Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> > [@Railer13](#):
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> > One of the charges is
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> > > criminal mischief to a place of worship
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> Why “to a place of worship” and not “in a place of worship”?

One presumes that the damage was to an _outdoor_ Nativity display.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5424 "2022-12-06T18:44:46Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> that story doesn’t give us _any_ information about the outcome/aftermath of the incident for the goldendoodle, who is the _real_ victim here.

Goldendoodle. Sounds like a tease.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5425 "2022-12-06T18:57:06Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Oddly enough, I don’t care where on the _planet_ it is; I’m against _[crimes] against a place of worship_ being treated differently by whatever legal system is in place locally. It’s dangerously close to permitting the concept of blasphemy to have legal meaning (which I’m also against).

Flip it the other way around. Someone uses chalk to put a swastika on a Jewish temple. Not much physical damage there. but a whole hellofa lot of hate crime. Should that be treated the same as someone drawing a dick in your driveway with chalk?

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5426 "2022-12-06T19:02:47Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> Someone uses chalk to put a swastika on a Jewish temple. Not much physical damage there. but a whole hellofa lot of hate crime. Should that be treated the same as someone drawing a dick in your driveway with chalk?

That’s a valid thought, but I think this perp just wanted to fuck a dog, not desecrate a church.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5427 "2022-12-06T19:03:43Z")

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But people move to Florida [because they’re tough on crime](https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-are-moving-to-florida-because-its-tough-on-crime-2022-11).

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5428 "2022-12-06T19:14:37Z")

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Agreed, but kalasdad made a very strong statement about treating places of worship the same as any other location; I was opining that the law was set up to discourage religious hate crimes, not blasphemy.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5429 "2022-12-06T19:28:20Z")

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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> I was opining that the law was set up to discourage religious hate crimes, not blasphemy.

Is dog fucking a form of blasphemy?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 6, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5430 "2022-12-06T19:31:50Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> > I was opining that the law was set up to discourage religious hate crimes, not blasphemy.
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> Is dog fucking a form of blasphemy? -

All Dogs Go To Heaven so, yeah.

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