# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5511 "2022-12-13T19:32:43Z")

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“Well, Gwynneth you’re an odd fellow, but I must say you steam a good clam.”

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2022, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5512 "2022-12-14T20:55:58Z")

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What a dick.

> **[Sexist remark to TV reporter covering homicide sparks outrage](https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/sexist-remark-to-tv-reporter-covering-homicide-sparks-outrage/ar-AA15hmNN?cvid=5bcbc7268067418a8456cdc257b5fe8d)**
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> The Twitter user was condemned by other journalists and social media users after their sexist comments.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5513 "2022-12-15T00:11:30Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> What a dick.

Not that I’m not agreeing with you, but…they’re writing news articles about news article comments??

Don’t tell reporters about youtube.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5514 "2022-12-15T00:54:39Z")

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Smuckers is suing a sandwich maker, claiming crustless PB&Js are their trademark.

> **[Smucker's Goes After Small Business Making Crustless Sandwiches](https://gizmodo.com/smucker-crustless-sandwich-business-infringes-trademark-1849891445)**
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> Smucker's says the "round crustless design" of its Uncrustables sandwich is protected by trademark law.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5515 "2022-12-15T00:55:56Z")

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> Smucker’s says the “round crustless design” of its Uncrustables sandwich is protected by trademark law.

That is NOT something to be proud of.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5516 "2022-12-15T01:16:56Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Don’t tell reporters about youtube.

I’ve seen articles about YouTube videos if they are notable and/or controversial. Actually, I see them all the time. News articles will be written about anything that someone might find interesting. That has always been the case. That’s what journalism is.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5517 "2022-12-15T04:08:41Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> That’s what journalism is.

I call that pandering. Journalism is “the diffusion of intelligence or of opinions by means of journals or newspapers and periodicals.” Journalism is what you should be reading, instead of the dreck about car wrecks and murders.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5518 "2022-12-15T04:14:52Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> That’s what journalism is.

Writing articles on youtube _comments_? God, I hope not.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5519 "2022-12-15T04:45:20Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> I call that pandering.

Yup, journalism. For centuries at least. Same old same old. You think newspapers have ever been different?

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5520 "2022-12-15T05:17:53Z")

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Scary Flake Keri Lake gets real with UPS dude.

> **[Kari Lake’s Tale About A UPS Driver Has Everyone Saying, Hmm OK](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/kari-lake-tale-ups-driver-080608657.html)**
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> Critics mocked the failed Donald Trump-endorsed Republican candidate for a story that sounded awfully familiar.

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> Lake claimed on Twitter that a UPS delivery driver “just told us he is ‘devastated’ that they ‘stole another election’ and asked how he could help.”

Posting this only because of this tweet response:

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> My local FedEx driver felt you lost because of no political experience and the Trump endorsement pushing away moderate Republicans. I’ll see what my DoorDasher says if i order out tonight for dinner!😂😂 😂

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5521 "2022-12-15T07:52:21Z")

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Yeah, but FedEx is your _leftie_ delivery service. Everyone knows the Right uses UPS.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5522 "2022-12-15T08:17:43Z")

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Wait, aren’t those UPS trucks brown? Seems strange.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5523 "2022-12-15T16:26:39Z")

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When newspapers were the single news source for most American families, they could afford to spend money on actual journalism – i.e. coverage of news that mattered to the common weal. They also had comics and crosswords and society pages and entertainment news and Dear Abby to pander to those who weren’t interested in the news. But no-one called that part journalism.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5524 "2022-12-15T16:28:14Z")

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[New Study Links COVID-19 Vaccination Status to Increased Risk of Car Crashes (msn.com)](https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/new-study-links-covid-19-vaccination-status-to-increased-risk-of-car-crashes/ar-AA15hTt3?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=4b0b020d14414002b7f236991c0d3676)

> [R]esearchers were able to identify that individuals who hadn’t gotten a COVID-19 vaccine were at a greater risk of traffic accidents. But it wasn’t because of the vaccine. The link actually comes down to risks associated with decision making—in relation to decisions concerning getting vaccinated, and also to obey (or not obey) traffic laws.

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**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5525 "2022-12-15T16:31:18Z")

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Ya know, my six year old grandson won’t eat the crust, so I carefully cut it off and put it inside the PB&J. I don’t have to throw it away, and he’s happy eating it. I hope I’m not infringing on someone’s intellectual property.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5526 "2022-12-15T16:57:57Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> When newspapers were the single news source for most American families, they could afford to spend money on actual journalism – i.e. coverage of news that mattered to the common weal.

That’s a very generous and totally inaccurate reading of history.

What actually happened was that at some point late in the 19th century, competing newspapers found that sensationalism and avoiding excessive political slant increased readership and (more importantly) advertising revenue, i.e. ‘actual’ journalism was driven and supported by a profit motive based on the society pages and entertainment. To the extent this was about facts and journalistic integrity and so on, it was to avoid a reduction in advertising revenue, i.e. avoid pissing off the plebes so much they stop buying newspapers.

Basically the forerunner of the clickbait and outrage machine we decry today is what supported ‘real’ journalism, then as now.

Prior to that, news was nakedly partisan to a greater degree than today - newspapers were openly linked to specific political parties and views. I.e. people/families read and supported the newspapers that followed their own political slant. They, to a large extent, didn’t want legitimate facts but rather stories that supported their pre-conceived notions. But this wasn’t as profitable as murder-porn and clickbait - plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

On the upside, this meant several decades of improved journalistic standards, but it appears this may be a relative historical blip.

We’ve come full circle to the point naked partisanship and a tenuous grasp of facts are once again more profitable than accurate, robust journalism, hence Fox News and its ilk. People haven’t changed. But the way to profit from them via news has evolved with the years.

I mean it’s even in the phrase we use for it; Yellow Journalism

> **[Yellow journalism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism)**
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> Yellow journalism and yellow press are American terms for journalism and associated newspapers that present little or no legitimate, well-researched news while instead using eye-catching headlines for increased sales. Techniques may include exaggerations of news events, scandal-mongering, or sensationalism. By extension, the term yellow journalism is used today as a pejorative to decry any journalism that treats news in an unprofessional or unethical fashion.
> In English, the term is chiefly...

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wow! that is impressive.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5528 "2022-12-15T18:38:56Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> I mean it’s even in the phrase we use for it; Yellow Journalism

The fact that the term requires a modifier means that that is not the generally accepted meaning of “journalism.”

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5529 "2022-12-15T18:42:34Z")

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Double down if you want, but journalism historically has been the reverse - not too concerned about facts and pandering to the political lean of readers. That described all newspapers until the late 19th century.

If anything, we’re returning to the historical norm of journalism rather than straying from it. And that really is a shame but certainly not something new.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2022, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5530 "2022-12-15T19:24:51Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> If anything, we’re returning to the historical norm of journalism rather than straying from it. And that really is a shame but certainly not something new.

That is my point.

I’m not defending the practice, just pointing out the reality of it. I think it sucks too.

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