# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 289
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5771 "2023-01-09T18:31:07Z")
I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5772 "2023-01-09T20:09:11Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > I agree. I felt it was worth bringing attention to such a great line in an article that doesn’t really require reading past the headline. When I was in line at the grocery the _World News_ in the rack had a headline, **Boy Swallows Gasoline – Blows Up** I deliberately did not read the story. It could only have been a disappointment after that headline. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5773 "2023-01-09T20:13:29Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Although a witness came forward who thought it was more of an “Arrrrrrrrh!” Despicable. Obviously attempting to frame the respectable pirate community of Bakersfield. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5774 "2023-01-09T20:18:25Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > When I was in line at the grocery the _World News_ in the rack had a headline, **Boy Swallows Gasoline – Blows Up** obviously the gasoline made him very angry ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5775 "2023-01-09T20:29:38Z")
Well that would be less disappointing than Boy swallows; Gasoline - blows up. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5776 "2023-01-10T17:34:18Z")
Brian Walshe, husband of missing wife Ana Walshe, did internet searches about how to dismember and dispose of a body, specifically a 115 pound woman’s body. And apparently a bloody knife plus more blood were found in the basement of their home. Perfectly understandable, everyone has a hobby they like to pursue and sometimes folks need to look up details on the internet. > **[Hacksaw and apparent bloodstains recovered by investigators combing through...](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/10/us/ana-walshe-missing-massachusetts-mother-husband-tuesday/index.html)** > > Police in the small coastal town of Cohasset, Massachusetts, are investigating the disappearance of a woman whose husband's internet records showed searches for how to dismember a body, sources told CNN, and prosecutors say blood and a bloodied knife... ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5777 "2023-01-10T18:09:48Z")
> Brian Walshe has been criminally charged with misleading investigators in the case Look, if he’d just murdered his wife and chopped up the body that would be one thing. But what really annoys people is when you _lie_ about it afterwards. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ljaP2etvDc4/maxresdefault.jpg "Norm Macdonald on Bill Cosby") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaP2etvDc4) ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5778 "2023-01-10T18:28:24Z")
Norm was awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5779 "2023-01-10T20:12:27Z")
Thanks for that. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5780 "2023-01-10T23:15:38Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-woman-who-left-alabama-to-join-isis-says-she-felt-broken-after-she-was-stripped-of-her-us-citizenship/ar-AA16aDzJ?cvid=5b27298e2ac24c3e9a6f10e32b3a0d1f](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/a-woman-who-left-alabama-to-join-isis-says-she-felt-broken-after-she-was-stripped-of-her-us-citizenship/ar-AA16aDzJ?cvid=5b27298e2ac24c3e9a6f10e32b3a0d1f) > The appeals court supported that decision, describing Hoda as “a prominent spokeswoman for ISIS on social media, advocating the killing of Americans and encouraging American women to join ISIS.” Seriously, you go and join our enemy. What did you think was gonna happen? Go fuck yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2023, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5781 "2023-01-10T23:48:12Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Brian Walshe, husband of missing wife Ana Walshe, did internet searches about how to dismember and dispose of a body, specifically a 115 pound woman’s body. And apparently a bloody knife plus more blood were found in the basement of their home. _And_ he reportedly [spent $450 on cleaning supplies](https://www.thedailybeast.com/ana-walshes-husband-brian-spent-dollar450-on-cleaning-supplies-prosecutors) the day after she disappeared. “…prosecutors allege…he went to a nearby Home Depot in Rockland and bought mops, tarps, tape, buckets, and drop cloths.” “He showed up at the store wearing a mask, gloves, and paid in cash, according to a probable cause affidavit obtained Monday by The Daily Beast.” Amazing how people will rush to judgment on such flimsy circumstantial evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5782 "2023-01-11T00:33:26Z")
That’s actually a very interesting case. The government can’t, of course, actually revoke anyone’s American citizenship. What happened in this case was that it was determined that she never had been a citizen, since even though she was born here, her parents were diplomats, putting her into the only loophole in the birthright citizenship rule. But nobody AFAIK denied that she and her family, as well as the government, had always assumed she was a citizen. No matter how despicable she is, it seems harsh to yank that away after twenty years because someone made a paperwork error when she was a newborn. (I’m assuming her birth certificate should have been marked with something that would have prevented it from being used as proof of citizenship for purpose of getting SSNs, passports, etc.) She appears to understand that her hoped-for return to the US would result in her immediate arrest and subsequent lengthy prison sentence, but is willing to pay that price. (I’m seeing a pattern here of making dramatic gestures by volunteering for things that aren’t really in her best interest) So although she certainly qualifies for this thread for joining ISIS in the first place, I don’t find her attempt to return to the US and face the music to be particularly objectionable. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5783 "2023-01-11T00:51:04Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Brian Walshe, husband of missing wife Ana Walshe, did internet searches about how to dismember and dispose of a body, specifically a 115 pound woman’s body. He must be a writer. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5784 "2023-01-11T00:58:53Z")
You made me think of this. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/47bKTtIwrO4/hqdefault.jpg "Tom Lehrer - The Irish Ballad - LIVE FILM From Copenhagen in 1967") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47bKTtIwrO4) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5785 "2023-01-11T01:08:05Z")
> [@Thing.Fish](#): > > The government can’t, of course, actually revoke anyone’s American citizenship. My understanding is that if you become naturalized under false pretenses, it can be revoked. Is this is a question of semantics about the word “revoked”? Or am I just wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5786 "2023-01-11T01:11:09Z")
No, that’s basically what happened in this case, and it seems fair to describe it as a question of semantics. She wasn’t stripped of her citizenship, it was determined she never really had it in the first place, but the practical effect is the same. Although obviously if there were any “false pretenses” involved, it wasn’t _her_ fault, hence my feeling that the government’s action was harsh. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5787 "2023-01-11T01:38:34Z")
Norm was a genius. The way he sets it up is very clever, he first asks “Do you think Cosby’s reputation will be tarnished?” A bit odd to ask that, of course it will - you dismiss it as probably just rhetorical… but it sows that sliver of doubt that maybe he’s going to _defend_ Cosby in some way. That builds into him _seeming_ to be saying the hypocrisy was okay, before the vicious turnaround. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5788 "2023-01-11T05:29:32Z")
A general with the California National Guard has been relieved of duty after he reportedly ordered troops to take his mother shopping. Brigadier General Jeffrey Magram has also been accused of forcing subordinates to perform other personal tasks, such as making an on-duty National Guard member drive him 120 miles to a dental appointment and coercing an underling to take his place in a mandatory training session, a spokesman says. While Magram hasn’t denied the accusations, he says no one has ever complained about running errands for him. > **[National Guard General Fired For Ordering Troops To Take His Mom Shopping |...](https://kfiam640.iheart.com/featured/tim-conway-jr/content/2023-01-09-national-guard-general-fired-for-ordering-troops-to-take-his-mom-shopping/)** > > A general with the California National Guard has been relieved of duty after he reportedly ordered troops to take his mother shopping. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5789 "2023-01-11T05:44:33Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > he says no one has ever complained about running errands for him. It’s a weirdly written notpology: > “Had I ever heard of any ethics issues like this from subordinates, peers or commanders, or perceptions of such, I would have corrected or addressed it on the spot,” he said in a statement to an inspector general. He’s _trying_ to say that nobody complained. But his circumlocution ends up making it sound much worse, more like he lacks any ability to make ethical judgments for himself. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5790 "2023-01-11T06:18:42Z")
Well, she wasn’t naturalized. And she certainly wasn’t born under false pretenses. The US government’s assertion is that she was born while her parents were still classified as diplomats. Her legal team’s assertion is that she was born after her parents were no longer diplomats. ISTM that should be a pretty easy thing to determine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=288) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=290)