# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 290
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5791 "2023-01-11T06:27:27Z")
It does, doesn’t it? I remember reading a good article about this case which I could have sworn was in _Lowering the Bar,_ but I can’t find it there. There was yet another twist, in that her father was fired shortly before she was born, but failed to leave the country, and there was a question as to exactly when he stopped being a diplomat and became a regular illegal alien. Apparently that question of fact was resolved in the government’s favor. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5792 "2023-01-11T06:44:52Z")
There is this troublesome little sentence, though, > [@Article III §3](#): > > _Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort._ By that measure, her actions are unquestionably treasonous, if she was in fact a citizen. In that case, letting her return to America would be worse for her: treason at least used to be a capital offense. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5793 "2023-01-11T10:03:25Z")
Personally I get very antsy when governments revoke people’s citizenship for whatever reason, because it’s an effective stripping them of their rights and that’s a power that is dangerous to let governments have. At least if someone gets sent to prison, they still actually have some rights (not that they’ll get to enjoy them much, but still.) ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5794 "2023-01-11T10:22:56Z")
If I’m driving anyone 120 miles, military or not, there had better be an apology coming. Because that’s a lot of audiobooks and awkward conversations. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5795 "2023-01-11T10:34:20Z")
[They better not eat corn chips or take off their shoes.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm_tYL7_Vdc) ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5796 "2023-01-11T15:35:21Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > > > Brian Walshe, husband of missing wife Ana Walshe, did internet searches about how to dismember and dispose of a body, specifically a 115 pound woman’s body. > > He must be a writer. Hey, I own copies of _Armed and Dangerous_, _Deadly Doses_ and _Cause of Death_ (part of the [Howdunit Series](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=howdunit+series&crid=21J7NPFHY61Q4&sprefix=howdunit+series%2Caps%2C142&ref=nb_sb_noss_1) of writers’ guides) and that has nothing to do with mysterious disappearances in my area, really. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5797 "2023-01-11T18:14:34Z")
The browser search history for a lot of writers can be appalling if you don’t know they’re a writer. One of my favorite authors was looking for information on how much damage aquatic life could do to a body that had been tossed in a river 3 days before and asked for help from her Twitter fans. Then there was the search for a poison that wouldn’t have much debilitating effect for a couple hours but would then kill you quickly and rather painfully. Can you imagine what a LEO looking at that sort of history would be thinking if they didn’t know this was a writer? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5798 "2023-01-11T18:19:26Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > a poison that wouldn’t have much debilitating effect for a couple hours but would then kill you quickly and rather painfully. And was one found? Asking for a friend. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5799 "2023-01-11T18:24:49Z")
Yes, but I don’t remember the name. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5800 "2023-01-11T18:26:59Z")
And now when someone is looking for a way to murder someone the search will bring them here. You could be saving lives. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5801 "2023-01-11T18:27:10Z")
Polonium is not far off for that sort of thing, as the FSB has recently shown us. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5802 "2023-01-11T19:42:02Z")
> [@Morgyn](#): > > The browser search history for a lot of writers can be appalling if you don’t know they’re a writer. I have googled everything from “fastest way to kill someone with a knife”\* to “old timey condoms.” And for the record, if you ever get locked in a freezer, you’re probably screwed. (Though a lot of them have safety mechanisms these days.) Reminds me of this: > **[‘How to Murder Your Husband’ author sentenced to life in prison for murdering...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/-murder-husband-author-sentenced-life-prison-murdering-husband-rcna33339)** > > Nancy Crampton Brophy, 71, was convicted of second-degree murder on May 25 for fatally shooting Dan Brophy, 63, at his workplace in Portland four years ago. \*Carotid or jugular. I can’t remember which one’s fastest. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5803 "2023-01-11T19:47:35Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Personally I get very antsy when governments revoke people’s citizenship for whatever reason, because it’s an effective stripping them of their rights and that’s a power that is dangerous to let governments have. Unless they are a SovCit, FotL, Moorish, etc. Then I’m perfectly OK with it as long as we deport them to North Korea. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5804 "2023-01-11T20:26:40Z")
IANOM\* but I am pretty sure it is either the jugular, or the femoral (upper thigh) which would be most deadly. \* I am not a murderer ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5805 "2023-01-11T20:29:08Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > IANOM\* but I am pretty sure it is either the jugular, or the femoral (upper thigh) which would be most deadly. > > \* I am not a murderer - The femoral is larger but the jugular is easier to get to. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5806 "2023-01-11T20:39:22Z")
I would think the carotid would be faster, as that would immediately reduce the blood (and oxygen) going to the brain, so the ~~client~~ victim would be more likely to immediately pass out. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5807 "2023-01-11T20:42:57Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > I would think the carotid would be faster, as that would immediately reduce the blood (and oxygen) going to the brain, so the ~~client~~ victim would be more likely to immediately pass out. - They’re side by side. It’s a two-fer. [![](https://static.cambridge.org/binary/version/id/urn:cambridge.org:id:binary:20191014053739456-0003:9781108698665:47704fig8_1.png?pub-status=live) ](https://static.cambridge.org/binary/version/id/urn:cambridge.org:id:binary:20191014053739456-0003:9781108698665:47704fig8_1.png?pub-status=live) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5808 "2023-01-11T20:45:54Z")
I have it on very good authority that it would be most effective if you would cut the carotid artery, just under the left ear. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5809 "2023-01-11T20:51:30Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > I have it on very good authority that it would be most effective if you would cut the carotid artery, just under the left ear. - Why not the right ear? Asking for a friend. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/5810 "2023-01-11T20:55:19Z")
I remember in the _LOTR Two Towers_ commentary when Saruman got shanked by Wormtongue, PJ commented that Christopher Lee, who was in the [SOE](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Operations_Executive) during WWII, said when they were blocking the scene and rehearsing it told them, “Oh, no, that’s not what a person does when you stab them.” No further questions were asked., [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=289) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=291)