# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/585 "2021-05-12T13:38:48Z")

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Good a place as any to put this:

Some of our retired military friends have done some seriously fucked up koolaid drinking.

> **[More than 120 retired generals and admirals wrote to Biden appearing to back...](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/more-120-retired-generals-admirals-100024106.html)**
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> The letter published by "Flag Officers 4 America" appeared to advance a false conspiracy theory that the 2020 election was illegitimate.

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> On [its website](https://flagofficers4america.com/), Flag Officers 4 America says it is a collection of “retired military leaders who pledged to support and defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies, foreign and domestic.” In the letter, the signatories, many of whom have been out of active service for decades, also addressed concerns over Biden’s health.

Apparently a bunch of doddering, oblivious, possibly demented retired military leaders who probably should have just kept to their miserable selves.

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> In the Tuesday letter, the Flag Officers 4 America signatories also laid out what they deem to be the major threats facing the US, namely the rise of China, the rejoining of the Iran nuclear deal, immigration, and the ending of the Keystone Pipeline project. The signatories also called for the [removal of Section 230](https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-section-230-internet-law-communications-decency-act-explained-2020-5?utm_source=yahoo.com&utm_medium=referral), a part of US law that shields tech companies from legal liability.

Ah, right - the usual alt-right talking points coming into play now - your basic, subhuman (R.) voters, then.

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> “Our Nation is in deep peril,” the signatories wrote in the introduction to the letter.

Sure, with toxic, brain-dead buzzards like you - no wonder, eh?

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> “We are in a fight for our survival as a Constitutional Republic like no other time since our founding in 1776. The conflict is between supporters of Socialism and Marxism vs. supporters of Constitutional freedom and liberty.”

How soon will the rest of the military basically just defecate on you worthless coots?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Apparently a bunch of doddering, oblivious, possibly demented retired military leaders who probably should have just kept to their miserable selves.

Some of whom were in the Capitol building on 1/6.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/587 "2021-05-12T14:54:35Z")

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> [@doddering old generals](#):
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> retired military leaders who pledged to support and defend the Constitution of the US against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

“Domestic”. They’re talking about YOU, you fascist traitorous old coots.

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/588 "2021-05-12T15:58:36Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [https://www.mediaite.com/crime/man-in-viral-video-who-said-he-couldnt-be-arrested-for-racist-and-threatening-tirade-has-been-arrested-for-racist-and-threatening-tirade/](https://www.mediaite.com/crime/man-in-viral-video-who-said-he-couldnt-be-arrested-for-racist-and-threatening-tirade-has-been-arrested-for-racist-and-threatening-tirade/)
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> [MSN](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/man-in-viral-video-who-said-he-couldnt-be-arrested-for-racist-and-threatening-tirade-has-been-arrested-for-racist-and-threatening-tirade/ar-BB1g7s1x?li=BBnbfcL)
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> Moron who said he couldn’t be arrested for this was arrested for this. Sweet

The best part of this is the subject of Moron’s tirade simply laughed at him and drove off. Hats off to you, ma’am.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/589 "2021-05-12T17:10:11Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Some of our retired military friends have done some seriously fucked up koolaid drinking.

That article was disgusting. It’s sad when people who pledged to defend their country end up turning on it.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/590 "2021-05-12T20:08:51Z")

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“I don’t think anyone is questioning the legitimacy of the presidential election.” - [Kevin McCarthy](https://www.wsls.com/news/politics/2021/05/12/gop-purged-cheney-for-unity-but-trump-bent-on-retribution/)

Mr. House Minority Leader, you’re not paying attention.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/591 "2021-05-12T20:19:58Z")

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A 28 year old woman tried to pass herself off as a student at a Miami area high school so she could hand out flyers promoting her Instagram page. She was arrested.

> **[Police: Woman posed as student to promote Instagram page](https://apnews.com/article/oddities-dd432fb7433f47a38aa0b4411097970b?utm_medium=AP_Oddities)**
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> MIAMI (AP) — A 28-year-old woman who wanted to promote her Instagram page attempted to blend in with students at a Miami-area high school, police said. Monday's stunt at American Senior High School landed Audrey Francisquini in jail, where she's...

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/592 "2021-05-12T20:32:47Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Some of our retired military friends have done some seriously fucked up koolaid drinking.

Does anyone know the approximate total number of people who fall into the category “retired generals and admirals”? I’m wondering how significant it really is that somebody was able to find 124 of them to sign up to this nonsense.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/593 "2021-05-12T20:36:24Z")

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From a 2006 Slate article:

> It’s hard to get good numbers, but the Explainer estimates that about 4,700 general officers are enjoying their retirement in the United States right now.

I could probably opine at some length about what factors may have changed since that time, but my gut tells me that’s going to be in the ball park.

**[SOURCE](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2006/04/how-many-retired-generals-are-there.html)**

ETA:

> (The Army, Air Force, and Marine Corps all use “general” titles. In the Navy, the top four positions are admiral, vice admiral, and two levels of rear admiral.)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/594 "2021-05-12T20:42:18Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Some of our retired military friends have done some seriously fucked up koolaid drinking.

How many of them have been confirmed as being former officers?

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/595 "2021-05-12T20:42:40Z")

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Thanks. So perhaps we could reframe that article somewhat more positively as

> Less than 3% of retired senior officers would openly admit to being seditious morons

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/596 "2021-05-12T21:49:21Z")

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Sounds about right.

My alternative surmise about this august little cadre is that – to borrow a line from “A Walk In The Woods --” they were the retired generals who “Would have stormed the Capitol,” but “their doctor just upped the dosage of their beta-blockers and they can’t get off the couch.”

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/597 "2021-05-12T21:50:38Z")

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I see the effort to keep this out of the wingnuts’ Wikipedia articles has started. Some anonymous editor of William G. Boykin’s article declared it “biased”.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/598 "2021-05-12T22:14:02Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> It’s hard to get good numbers, but the Explainer estimates that about 4,700 general officers are enjoying their retirement in the United States right now.

124 out of 4700. Seems like an appropriate number of dipshits you would in any group that size.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2021, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/599 "2021-05-12T23:17:26Z")

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I think **LSLGuy** put it best in the 7Jan2021 thread

> [@7 Jan 2021 and beyond - the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/7-jan-2021-and-beyond-the-aftermath-of-the-storming-of-the-capitol/930020/1604):
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> Some fraction of retired flag officers being over-the-top jingoistic and seeing a commie under every bush are hardly something new.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/600 "2021-05-13T16:51:38Z")

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For sale: nice house in Brooklyn. Only $80,000-$100,000.

Or…not.

> **[NYC mayoral candidates criticised as out of touch for wildly lowballing price...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/nyc-mayoral-house-prices-brooklyn-b1845734.html)**
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> Former housing secretary causes shock for having wildly out of touch perception of affordable housing market

For added stupidity, one of those stupid MFs is a former HUD secretary. Thanks, Obama!

TL;DR: the median house price in Brooklyn is actually $900,000, not $100,000 as two NYC mayoral candidates appear to believe.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/601 "2021-05-13T16:56:30Z")

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Yeah, I mean I understand why Bill Gates would be clueless about the price of a gallon of milk. But

> Mr Donovan has an extensive background in housing policy as he was housing secretary and budget director for president Barack Obama. Before that, he worked as then-New York mayor Michael Bloomberg’s housing commissioner from 2004 to 2009.

And he was off by an order of magnitude? WTF?

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/602 "2021-05-13T16:59:29Z")

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Shaun Donovan corrected himself later, saying he was referring to the assessed value of Brooklyn homes. (The NYT says the correct answer is $900,000 for an average home in Brooklyn, so is the assessed value really that much less?)

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/603 "2021-05-13T16:59:57Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/disbarment-recommended-for-florida-attorney-who-menaced-her-ex-spat-on-cops-report/ar-BB1gFr3D?li=BBnbfcL](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/disbarment-recommended-for-florida-attorney-who-menaced-her-ex-spat-on-cops-report/ar-BB1gFr3D?li=BBnbfcL)

Not the kind of self-control you would expect from an attorney.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/604 "2021-05-13T17:33:31Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/university-president-resigns-after-plagiarizing-speech/vi-BB1gHvdo](https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news/university-president-resigns-after-plagiarizing-speech/vi-BB1gHvdo)

In an institution that expels people for this…

What a dick.

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