# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6071 "2023-01-20T06:06:18Z")

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Agreed.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6072 "2023-01-20T06:11:17Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> “Bonnie” is mentally ill and is being taken advantage of by a grifter

If mentally ill people and their anointed grifters were not trying undermine U.S. democracy and turn us into a White supremacist theocracy, I’d be more sympathetic to getting them the psychiatric care they need rather than just trying to hold the line against the the fuckers. I mean, even brain guzzling zombies are only that way because the poor things are infected with a virus, but in an apocalyptic scenario I’m not going to put my cricket bat away until the world is safe.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6073 "2023-01-20T06:15:55Z")

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Well to be fair, the crazy “queen of Canada” and the sad examples who follow her are not trying to undermine US democracy. Her followers are just deluded folks who are now getting evicted after having their utilities cut off. And the “Queen” of the movement is living in a trailer in a vacant lot.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6074 "2023-01-20T06:20:47Z")

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If you think you can succeed in getting everyone associated with the QAnon movement sectioned as a danger to themselves and others, I will wholeheartedly support that. I’ll happily subsidize their psychiatric care with my tax dollars.

Until that happens, they are a dangerous enemy.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6075 "2023-01-20T06:24:09Z")

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I can guarantee that the crazy queen and her followers are on the RCMP watch list, and are being followed quite closely.

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**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6076 "2023-01-20T08:41:33Z")

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You can’t be in crazy, but you can be insane.

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**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6077 "2023-01-20T15:29:00Z")

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A _ **seat belt violation** _ requires a criminal investigation??? Why not just issue him a ticket? Or better yet, move on with your lives since no one caught him in the act?

Even in these over-policed United States, you’re not getting a seat belt ticket retroactively. A cop has to catch you in the act. And I think, in most states (though I could be wrong), it’s a secondary offense, meaning they have to pull you over for something else (like speeding) first.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6078 "2023-01-20T15:41:07Z")

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> **[Propping feet on Pelosi desk was mistake, man testifies](https://www.yahoo.com/news/jurors-hear-man-propped-feet-214211635.html)**
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> An Arkansas man testified Thursday that he was “going with the flow” when he propped up his feet on a desk in then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office, posing for photographs that made him one of the most memorable figures from the U.S. Capitol riot...

I think this sums up a lot of that crowd (and their supporters)

> Prosecutor Michael Gordon showed an online post in which Barnett declared anyone who “does not support the Constitution” to be his enemy. Asked how well he knew the document himself, Barnett eventually acknowledged that he knew the First and Second Amendments well, but had little knowledge of others.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6079 "2023-01-20T16:28:12Z")

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i’m gonna figure he does not have a full knowledge of amendments one and two as well.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6080 "2023-01-20T16:29:59Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> i’m gonna figure he does not have a full knowledge of amendments one and two as well. -

“God says you can have guns. And ain’t nobody can tell me different.”

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6081 "2023-01-20T16:35:09Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Barnett declared anyone who “does not support the Constitution” to be his enemy.

Just like the hypocrites the ‘Oath Keepers’ take an oath to defend the constitution and defend it from all enemies foreign and domestic, and then attack the government.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6082 "2023-01-20T17:29:08Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> i’m gonna figure he does not have a full knowledge of amendments one and two as well.

I read this earlier today:

> “You love the Constitution?” asked the prosecutor. “Love it!” Barnett said. “First Amendment?” the prosecutor said. “Yes,” said Barnett. “Second Amendment?” the prosecutor said. “Yes,” said Barnett. “Love the Third Amendment?” the prosecutor said. “Yes,” said Barnett. “What’s the Third Amendment?” the prosecutor then followed up. Bigo paused and said, “I don’t know.”

I was going to post the article here, but the Third Amendment hasn’t really been something that needed to be used for a couple-hundred years; and I thought, ‘Meh. He _should_ know, but I don’t think his ignorance of it is that egregious.’

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6083 "2023-01-20T18:20:36Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Florida Man tries to pawn a WWI anti-ship ordinance and the whole street gets shut down.

Emphasis added…

… ??? 🤔

💡 Ohhhhh!!

[“Ordnance”.](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ordnance)

I was thoroughly baffled for a bit there, wondering what was so disruptive about trying to pawn some old municipal regulation against ships.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6084 "2023-01-20T18:31:48Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> He _should_ know, but I don’t think his ignorance of it is that egregious.’

He, thinking of himself as a soldier for the ‘real’ America, certainly made himself at home in that office.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6085 "2023-01-20T18:34:53Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I thought, ‘Meh. He _should_ know, but I don’t think his ignorance of it is that egregious.’

If Jimmy Kimmel had stopped him on the street and asked him out of the blue, sure. But if I were going to trial with the intention of painting myself as a well meaning patriot protecting Constitutional values from evildoers, I think I might do a little homework.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6086 "2023-01-20T18:36:43Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I was going to post the article here, but the Third Amendment hasn’t really been something that needed to be used for a couple-hundred years; and I thought, ‘Meh. He _should_ know, but I don’t think his ignorance of it is that egregious.’

I studied the US Constitution in high school (I even took Advanced Placement US History which I needed to apply for and pass a test to get into). I’m very aware of what’s in there. I know the substance of it. But I can’t off the top of my head tell you which amendment is which, aside from the ones that get mentioned all the time (1st, 2nd, and 5th).

So I wouldn’t know immediately what the 3rd is, but I look it up, oh it’s the one about quartering of soldiers. I know what it means, what the history is behind it, and why it used to be important. (The British would basically just take over your house and make you give beds and food to soldiers and you had to let them.)

But no, I don’t remember that it’s the 3rd one that says that.

I don’t expect anyone to memorize the whole freaking thing, but anyone who had a full basic education in the US should at least be aware of what’s in it. I’m guessing this guy probably didn’t pay attention and doesn’t care.

I also didn’t participate in an attempted government coup with the stated goal of “protecting the constitution”. If I did, I better make damn sure I know it really well.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6087 "2023-01-20T18:41:53Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> But I can’t off the top of my head tell you which amendment is which, aside from the ones that get mentioned all the time (1st, 2nd, and 5th).

I remember the 3rd _because_ it no longer really applies.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6088 "2023-01-20T18:47:45Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I don’t expect anyone to memorize the whole freaking thing…

I do! 😃

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6089 "2023-01-20T18:52:37Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> > Prosecutor Michael Gordon showed an online post in which Barnett declared anyone who “does not support the Constitution” to be his enemy. Asked how well he knew the document himself, Barnett eventually acknowledged that he knew the First and Second Amendments well, but had little knowledge of others.

Perhaps if he had been familiar with the 5th Amendment, nobody would have discovered that he is not familiar with any Amendments past the 2nd.

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6090 "2023-01-20T22:05:09Z")

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I believe that the Third Amendment is the only one that hasn’t had a single Supreme Court case adjudicated about it, which means it’s the only Amendment in the Bill of Rights that hasn’t had it’s provisions incorporated to apply to the states via the 14th Amendment.

Which means if some National Guardsman decides to take up residence in your spare bedroom, the case might have to go all the way to the Supreme Court before you got any justice\*.

\* Not really, plenty of lower courts would rule it as having been incorporated, so the Supreme Court probably would just have to deny certiorari. Or they might just take it up for giggles. Who can say these days?

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