# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6151 "2023-01-24T01:16:46Z")

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Pfft.

I am sure I learned about ordinance and ordnance a loooong time ago in a much older Dope thread.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6152 "2023-01-24T03:31:52Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Today I learned that “ordnance” and “ordinance” are two different words

Learning that without getting hurt is cool.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6153 "2023-01-24T03:39:09Z")

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I wish I learned that flammable and inflammable meant the same thing that way.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6154 "2023-01-24T07:30:21Z")

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I have also learned from personal experience that “genius” and “ingenious” both mean “you’re an idiot’ when said in a sarcastic tone.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6155 "2023-01-24T13:53:39Z")

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That’s why you always use the qualifier “stable” in conjunction with “genius”. No mistaking it then.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6156 "2023-01-24T16:32:43Z")

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I can’t find a free link just now, but people are upset that Splash Mountain is getting a remake to fit in with The Princess And The Frog and away from Song of the South.

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**Author:** ![SailorHG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SailorHG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SailorHG)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6157 "2023-01-24T17:11:01Z")

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Honestly this kind of annoys me too. All of the classic attractions having to be “updated” all the time. A few that I remember:

Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse → Tarzan Tree House  
20000 Leagues under the sea → Nemo’s journey (or whatever)  
The old autobahn → something “Cars” related  
Bear Country → Winnie the Pooh  
(probably more that I can’t think of right now)

I guess it’s the thought of getting old and seeing my childhood fading away piece by piece. 🤷‍♂️

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6158 "2023-01-24T17:16:14Z")

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Are all of the attractions associated with one of the company’s properties? I don’t remember that was always the case. For example, the Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean and It’s a Small World attractions were original.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6159 "2023-01-24T17:16:15Z")

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If nostalgia for your childhood depends on a deeply racist film that Disney wishes would simply disappear without a trace, perhaps the annoyance is worth the effort

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**Author:** ![SailorHG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@SailorHG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SailorHG)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6160 "2023-01-24T17:21:13Z")

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No opinion on the film because (as far as I know) I have never seen it. I only commented on the pattern of Disney feeling the need to change everything. I don’t remember anything racist depicted in Splash Mountain, either. Wasn’t it just the animals they showed there?

ETA: I’ve never seen Princess and the Frog, either. I have no feelings about the value (or lack thereof) of either film.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6161 "2023-01-24T17:25:25Z")

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> [@SailorHG](#):
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> No opinion on the film because (as far as I know) I have never seen it. I only commented on the pattern of Disney feeling the need to change everything. I don’t remember anything racist depicted in Splash Mountain, either. Wasn’t it just the animals they showed there? -

The original design was to incorporate scenes from _Song Of The South._

> **[Splash Mountain | Story](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_Mountain#Story)**
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> The plot behind Splash Mountain is a composite of several Uncle Remus stories as taken from the animated segments of the film Song of the South. The attraction tells the story of Br'er Rabbit, a mischievous character who leaves his home in search of adventure. Br'er Fox and Br'er Bear, the antagonists of the story, are determined to catch him but are repeatedly tricked by Br'er Rabbit into letting him free. The sharp-witted Br'er Rabbit avoids a snare trap (as described in "Br'er Rabbit Earns a D...

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6162 "2023-01-24T17:41:26Z")

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The film itself is not racist. The framing device is a bit problematical, but the original Uncle Remus stories are traditional African-American folk stories that I wish someone would bring back. The thought of these stories disappearing is heartbreaking.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6163 "2023-01-24T18:10:50Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> The film itself is not racist. The framing device is a bit problematical

That’s a very fine lined distinction to make, and one several wouldn’t make.

There’s enough people who have made that claim in the press at release and in the subsequent re-release that it’s not something one can simply declare unilaterally without significant public challenge. At a minimum, changing the branding on a ride based on the film shouldn’t be nearly as controversial.

If the stories are the important part, there are better ways to preserve them.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6164 "2023-01-24T18:14:26Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> For example, … Pirates of the Caribbean… [was] original.

I’d always assumed it was referencing _Treasure Island_ (1950), on which Walt Disney was the (uncredited) Executive Producer.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6165 "2023-01-24T19:26:29Z")

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> [@SailorHG](#):
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> Honestly this kind of annoys me too. All of the classic attractions having to be “updated” all the time.

Is anyone here old enough to remember the live Indian show at Disneyland?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6166 "2023-01-24T19:43:35Z")

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I’m old enough to remember the original Disneyland shooting galleries, which used, IIRC, .22CB caps and had to be repainted every night.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6167 "2023-01-24T20:03:45Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Is anyone here old enough to remember the live Indian show at Disneyland?

Would that be the one seen here, starting at around the 10:10 mark?

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgDBCTUji_s)

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6168 "2023-01-24T20:07:11Z")

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I didn’t watch the video, but the Indian Village was outside, not in the Golden Horseshoe Saloon. [I’ll watch it when I’m back home.]

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6169 "2023-01-24T20:21:03Z")

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That may be where the Indian Village was, but _this_ live Indian show apparently took place inside the Saloon…although it could be a one-time deal filmed for this special, seeing that it featured Annette Funicello and Ed Wynn.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6170 "2023-01-24T20:29:08Z")

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I look forward to watching the video. And now that I’ve had to google, the village lasted longer than I thought. [One website](https://www.yesterland.com/village.html) says it wasn’t replaced until 1972.

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