# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 325
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6491 "2023-02-16T23:57:59Z")
I love you people. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6492 "2023-02-17T04:21:09Z")
I wish I knew how to quit you. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6493 "2023-02-17T17:14:10Z")
Is there not a thread for the train derailment? Because, it happened again: > **[Another Norfolk Southern train has derailed, this time in Michigan,...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/another-norfolk-southern-train-derailed-192252905.html)** > > A different train operated by Norfolk Southern derailed in Ohio earlier this month, spilling hazardous chemicals. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6494 "2023-02-17T21:21:51Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Is there not a thread for the train derailment? > Because, it happened again: It [happens fairly frequently, as I just recently noted:](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-stupid-republican-idea-of-the-day-part-2/959018/7956) > [@Kimstu](#): > > [the 2017 derailments in Iowa and Washington, the 2018 collisions in South Carolina and Wyoming, and derailments in Virginia and Indiana, and similar catastrophes in 2019](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(2010%E2%80%932019)#2017) and [2020](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(2020%E2%80%93present)#2020)? > > > [@](#): > > > > [2017] > > 10 March – _United States_ – A freight train convoying ethanol derails and bursts into flames as it crosses a trestle bridge near [Graettinger, Iowa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graettinger,_Iowa). At least 27 of 101 cars derail. […] > > > > 18 December - _United States_ - **[2017 Washington train derailment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Washington_train_derailment)** : Amtrak _[Cascades](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amtrak_Cascades)_ passenger train #501, the inaugural run of the _Cascades_ service on a new rail line designed for higher speeds than the previous route, fails to slow down when approaching a 30 miles per hour (48 km/h) speed restriction and derails on a bridge over [I-5](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_5) in [Pierce County, Washington](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierce_County,_Washington). Three people are killed and over 80 injured […] > > > > [2018] > > 4 February - _United States_ - **[Cayce, South Carolina train collision](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayce,_South_Carolina_train_collision)** : [Amtrak](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amtrak) [_Silver Star_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Star_(Amtrak_train)) train #91traveling from [New York City](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City) to [Miami](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miami) collided with a [CSX](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSX) freight train in [Cayce, South Carolina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cayce,_South_Carolina), killing at least two people, injuring at least 100 others, and spilling thousands of gallons of fuel […] > > > > 19 May - _United States_ - A [CSX](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSX) freight train is derailed when a bridge collapses under it at [Franconia, Virginia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franconia,_Virginia) […] > > > > 17 June - _United States_ - A freight train consisting of 89 cars derails and causes an explosion outside of the city of [Princeton, Indiana](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princeton,_Indiana). Of the 23 derailed cars, 5 contain propane. Authorities evacuate homes within a 1-mile (1.6 km) radius of the derailment.[[…] > > > > 4 October - _United States_ - A [Union Pacific](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_Pacific) freight train loses its brakes and collides with the rear of a stationary train in [Granite Canyon, Wyoming](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite_Canyon,_Wyoming).[_[citation needed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)_] Preliminary NTSB reports have put the cause at a kink or pinched air hose along with a communication failure between the head end and the train’s [end-of-train device](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-of-train_device). The crew of the runaway train were killed […] > > > > [2019] > > 6 January – _United States_ – A Norfolk Southern freight train carrying hazardous chemicals derails in [Jefferson County, Georgia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_County,_Georgia) near [Bartow](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartow,_Georgia), prompting the evacuation of all addresses within a 7-mile (11 km) radius of the crash site due to tanker leakage. No injuries from the derailment were reported; however, at least 26 people, including a firefighter and three law enforcement officers, were treated for chemical exposure […] > > > > 9 April – _United States_ – Several cars of a [Delaware-Lackawanna Railroad](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delaware-Lackawanna_Railroad) train derail in [Dickson City, Pennsylvania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dickson_City,_Pennsylvania) […] > > > > 16 April – _United States_ – Six cars of a Norfolk Southern freight train carrying trash derail in [Wyomissing, Pennsylvania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyomissing,_Pennsylvania). The train was traveling westbound from [Oak Island, New Jersey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island_Yard) to [Mingo Junction, Ohio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mingo_Junction,_Ohio). The derailment backs up train traffic as far away as [Chicago](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago) […] > > > > 17 August – _United States_ – About 140 cars from two BNSF Railway trains derail near [Walton, Kansas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walton,_Kansas) due to high winds from a storm […] > > > [@](#): > > > > [2020] > > 1 January – _[United States](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States)_ – A [BNSF](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNSF) freight train strikes a landslide and derails near [Bonner’s Ferry, Idaho](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonner%27s_Ferry,_Idaho). Both locomotives end up in the [Kootenai River](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kootenai_River). Two crew are rescued by boat […] > > > > 13 February – _United States_ – Five cars of a 96-car [CSX](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSX) freight train derail in Draffin, [Kentucky](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kentucky) due to a rockslide. The locomotives and train cars caught fire, causing evacuations of nearby communities. Two crew members from the train were taken to a hospital […] > > > > 27 March - United States - In [Deland, Florida](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deland,_Florida), an Amtrak Auto Train derailed when 8 train cars tipped over, 1 person was injured […] > > > > 29 July – _United States_ – A freight train derails on a bridge in [Tempe, Arizona](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempe,_Arizona). The wreck catches fire and the bridge collapses […] > > > > 11 October - United States - In [Lilburn, Georgia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilburn,_Georgia), a CSX train derails during heavy rains following [Hurricane Delta](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Delta_(2020)), causing minor injuries to the two occupants of the locomotive […] > > > > 28 November - United States - In [Wellington, Colorado](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington,_Colorado), a _[BNSF](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNSF)_ Train collided with an empty train car and derailed with the train wheels of the empty train car which made the BNSF Train derail, 1 person was injured […] > > […] (And I’m not even including the dozen or so regional or light rail accidents or ones involving automobiles in the same period.) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6495 "2023-02-17T21:46:14Z")
This is just crazy to me. > **[How common are train derailments in US? Over 1,000 occur every year, data show](https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article272504491.html)** > > Broken or defective railroads are one of the most common causes of derailments, according to the FRA. What’s even crazier… > Derailments have decreased substantially over the past five decades. Annual derailments are down from 6,328 in 1975, the first year the Bureau of Transportation Statistics began reporting such data. So as common as they are, they happen far less frequently than they used to. To reiterate, over 6,000 derailments occurred in 1975, which was _the first year that they began reporting that information_. So I’d say that it’s very possible that it was worse before then. I guess it’s a good thing that they’re decreasing, though I’m not sure if that might be partially because we are using the railways less. I think it would be useful to compare the number of railway trips and/or distance that trains travel compared to derailments to get a real idea about how safety has changed. Another good statistic… > Additionally, fatalities associated with railways have long been a rare occurrence. Recently, there have been fewer than 10 per year. Although I call BS on this. The reason being, I live not far from an area where we have railways, and I recall stories about fatalities occurring frequently between trains and people (either in cars or on foot). It happens often enough that it’s barely news. If the statistic above is to be believed, a significant portion of the fatalities happening nationwide occur the next town over from me. It sounds to me like whoever wrote this article misinterpreted some data. And to be clear, they are talking about fatalities overall, not due to derailments, because… > Fatalities caused by derailments, as opposed to collisions or other forms of accidents, are even more infrequent. Between 2017 and 2021, there have only been six fatalities directly caused by derailments, according to data. And just to make sure that I’m not misremembering, I did a quick Google search. And sure enough… > **[Pedestrian killed by train in downtown Kent | Kent Reporter](https://www.kentreporter.com/news/pedestrian-killed-by-train-in-downtown-kent/)** > > Gowe, Titus and Willis streets were shut down for investigation at BNSF tracks > **[Police: Pedestrian struck, killed by train at railroad crossing in Kent](https://komonews.com/news/local/police-pedestrian-struck-by-train-at-railroad-crossing-in-kent)** > > Authorities said a pedestrian was struck and killed by a train at a railroad crossing in Kent Friday evening. The Kent Police Department said they are investigating a pedestrian accident involving a train at the Burlington Northern Railroad crossing.... > **[Kent police pause Sounder South trains after train hits, kills pedestrian](https://komonews.com/news/local/kent-police-pause-sounder-south-trains-after-train-hits-kills-pedestrian)** > > KENT, Wash. – Sounder South trains were stopped for a time after a fatal accident early Thursday. Sound Transit said its Sounder South train 1503 left King Street station at 6:35 a. m. and hit a pedestrian not long later about a mile south of Kent... That’s three railway fatalities last year in my area, which accounts for 30% of such deaths last year if the statistics above are to be believed. And the previous year… > **[Kent, WA - Pedestrian Fatally Hit by Train at James St & S 259th St](https://www.dorelawpllc.com/blog/2021/august/kent-wa-pedestrian-fatally-hit-by-train-at-james/)** > > Kent, WA (August 7, 2021) - On Thursday, August 5, a pedestrian was killed after being struck by a train in Kent. Is Kent, WA (where I used to ride the train daily for a while, mind you) responsible for such a large bulk of fatalities nationwide? Or is that just a garbage statistic? I did another search, and… > **[Railroad Deaths and Injuries - Injury Facts](https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/home-and-community/safety-topics/railroad-deaths-and-injuries/)** > > In 2022, railroad deaths increased 11%—the highest increase since 2007—and nonfatal injuries increased 6% from 2021. > Railroad deaths totaled 893 in 2021, a 20% increase from the 2020 revised total of 744 and the highest since 2007. A bit more than 10. I have no idea what the Kansas Star was trying to say there. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6496 "2023-02-17T22:16:45Z")
> **[Three Indicted in Nationwide Controlled Substance Conspiracy](https://www.justice.gov/usao-ma/pr/three-indicted-nationwide-controlled-substance-conspiracy)** > > BOSTON – Three individuals have been indicted by a federal grand jury in Boston in connection with a nationwide conspiracy to traffic controlled substances from Arizona into Massachusetts. Defendants allegedly hid drugs in packages containing... Reminds me of the plot of [a Billy Crystal/Gregory Hines movie.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_Scared_(1986_film)) > hiding the drugs within packages containing children’s items such as toy trucks, Halloween decorations and Disney items. Oh, and the woman involved? I asked Google about her name – look what came up: > **[Two found dead in Woonsocket home](https://turnto10.com/news/local/two-found-dead-at-woonsocket-home)** > > A massive police response at a Woonsocket home Sunday ended with a grim discovery. Police found a man and a woman dead inside a home on Bluestone Drive. Their 7-year-old child was apparently unharmed. Woonsocket Police Chief Thomas Oates told the... > Denise Guyette said she was visiting family on the street when it happened. > Guyette said her heart breaks because of the unknown trauma experienced by the child. 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6497 "2023-02-18T03:00:41Z")
[What the ever-loving fuck?](https://www.comicsands.com/disabled-councilman-hoists-himself-onstage-2659434018.html) > Disabled Denver City Councilman Speaks Out After He Was Forced To Hoist Himself On Stage At Mandatory Debate - The stage was not accessible to those with wheelchairs. - The councilman had to drag himself onto the stage to avoid forfeiting election funds he’d received. - After this, the organizers decided to move the debate to the floor in front of the stage. - Why is the place inaccessbile in 2023 anyway? What the ever-loving fuck? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6498 "2023-02-18T03:24:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [What the ever-loving fuck?](https://www.comicsands.com/disabled-councilman-hoists-himself-onstage-2659434018.html) > > > Disabled Denver City Councilman Speaks Out After He Was Forced To Hoist Himself On Stage At Mandatory Debate > > - The stage was not accessible to those with wheelchairs. > - The councilman had to drag himself onto the stage to avoid forfeiting election funds he’d received. > - After this, the organizers decided to move the debate to the floor in front of the stage. > - Why is the place inaccessbile in 2023 anyway? > > What the ever-loving fuck? - It’s likely the stage was overlooked in designing (or retrofitting) access for the disabled. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6499 "2023-02-18T05:28:49Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > It’s likely the stage was overlooked in designing (or retrofitting) access for the disabled. Then why did that poor man have to drag himself onto the stage before they moved the debate down to the floor? The Yavapai County Development Services building was designed and built without any sort of disabled access planning about ten years ago. This is the same department that approves planning and zoning for any building happening in the entire county, I cannot believe this was just a simple mistake. You are a much nicer person than I am, but I’ve known that for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6500 "2023-02-18T06:07:01Z")
Honestly, I could see, perhaps, something being overlooked in a retrofit for a very old building. But in a building that’s only ten years old? No excuse. And the outfit that organized the debate certainly knew of the councilman’s situation. This is a fine example of piss-poor planning. Again, no excuse. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6501 "2023-02-18T06:15:08Z")
The reason I said I thought that @running_coach coach is nicer than me applies to you as well. I do not think it was piss-poor planning. I think it was deliberate and they would do it again if they thought they could get away with it. Us disabled folks should just stay at home and not uglify the world by pretending we are also real people and deserving of any consideration. Old and disabled folks like me have given all we can so would better serve society by going away and not bothering anyone anymore. ---
**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6502 "2023-02-18T06:19:22Z")
> [@JaneDoe42](#): > > I do not think it was piss-poor planning. I think it was deliberate and they would do it again if they thought they could get away with it. > > Us disabled folks should just stay at home and not uglify the world by pretending we are also real people and deserving of any consideration. Old and disabled folks like me have given all we can so would better serve society by going away and not bothering anyone anymore. I concur with you completely. I couldn’t compose such an eloquent response, I was too busy sputtering. Sadly, this is not an unusual experience for us with disabilities. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6503 "2023-02-18T09:19:50Z")
If I can be attentive to improving chair access issues at my house, with no chair using family or friends, a fucking government entity damn well can, and opens itself to allegations of deliberately ignoring the ADA. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6504 "2023-02-18T09:25:02Z")
I see what you mean there. The way I see it is that their stupidity is such that they did not even consider that there may be someone who requires accessibility. If it had been deliberate, they would not have limited it to choosing an inadequate locale; they would pound out something akin to Tan the Conman’s mocking of a disabled person’s disability. In short, they’re just that fucking stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6505 "2023-02-18T09:27:31Z")
The worst part for me was that they waited until he made it up onto the stage before they decided to hold the debate on the floor in front of it. So he had to maneuver himself down, too. Or so I presume. An enterprising opponent could have seized the opportunity to score a few points with the attendees by simply trying to help the councilman get onstage. The article says no one helped him. Even _offering_ to help would have gone a long way in some people’s minds. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6506 "2023-02-18T09:36:19Z")
Yeah. I’m still gobsmacked that nobody assisted or even offered. I’d imagine that there would be enough folks who could lift him and the chair onto the stage. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6507 "2023-02-18T12:37:04Z")
This was my first thought. My mom was in a wheel chair during her last years. It really isn’t that hard for a physically capable person to assist. Two strong people could just lift the councilman and the wheel chair up to the stage. I assume there are at least steps. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6508 "2023-02-18T12:55:52Z")
> Ultimately, event organizers could not lift Hinds’s electric wheelchair onto the platform and the group held the debate on the floor in front of the stage. [**SOURCE**](https://www.denverpost.com/2023/02/15/denver-council-candidate-chris-hinds-wheelchair-debate/) > So, how much does an electric wheelchair weigh? While it can range from as light as 33 lbs to as heavy as nearly 300 lbs, we’re going to break down what factors into the weight of a power wheelchair. [**SOURCE**](https://www.freedomhme.com/blog/post/how-much-does-an-electric-wheelchair-weigh-) It would also be just about ‘perfectly’ individual as to what the specific person would want in a (horrible) situation like this. I just don’t think there’s a one-size-fits-all solution to how _best_ to respond. Except to do exactly what the person in question – in this case, Councilman Chris Hinds – wants done. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6509 "2023-02-18T13:31:04Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Although I call BS on this. > [@Atamasama](#): > > Fatalities caused by derailments I also live where there are a steady drip of people killed in collisions with trains. However, in 99.9% of those cases, the derailment (if there was one) was the result, not the cause, of the deaths. Most deaths are due to poorly marked crossings (a declining problem AFAICT) and/or people thinking “I’ve got time to get across here” (either on foot or in a vehicle). ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6510 "2023-02-18T14:36:10Z")
The article that I read said that his chair weighs 400 pounds. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=324) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=326)