# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/645 "2021-05-19T13:48:11Z")

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Yes, but HemisFares™ Sausage & Fennel Ragu with Barolo Wine Pasta Sauce (my favorite) disappeared from Kroger shelves during the Trump Administration, which was unforgiveable.

The least Biden could do is fix these horrible supply chain glitches through a Presidential Proclamation.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/646 "2021-05-19T13:54:19Z")

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Admiral Bopha D. Snutts agrees.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/647 "2021-05-19T22:35:21Z")

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A guy on a jet Blue flight from New York to San Francisco snorted something white out of a plastic bag, refused to wear a mask, walked the aisle without shoes, and made sexual suggestions to female passengers. The plane had to land in Minnesota so that he could be arrested.  
(It’s Fox, series)

> **[Passenger snorts white powder, refuses to wear mask and forces flight to...](https://www.foxnews.com/travel/jetblue-white-powder-refuses-mask-divert-minneapolis-airport)**
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> It’s probably not a good idea to snort anything on an airplane (or ever).

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/648 "2021-05-19T23:40:03Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> A guy on a jet Blue flight from New York to San Francisco snorted something white out of a plastic bag, refused to wear a mask, walked the aisle without shoes, and made sexual suggestions to female passengers.

That’s a whole lotta stupid in one passenger.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/649 "2021-05-19T23:52:17Z")

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I suspect drugs and/or alcohol are involved.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2021, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/650 "2021-05-19T23:54:46Z")

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And sex with cousins.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/651 "2021-05-20T00:18:46Z")

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> **[What's Going on With Kiss 108's ‘Matty in the Morning'?](https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/whats-going-on-with-kiss-108s-matty-in-the-morning/2384645/)**
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> Popular Boston radio host Matty Siegel walked out on his Kiss 108 morning show Wednesday after he said he was told by station management to stop talking about musician Demi Lovato’s announcement that they identify as non-binary. “They pulled the plug...

He’s been on the air for 40 years, maybe it’s time for him to move on. He has said he expects to be back on the air tomorrow; he’s _quit_ before. Sadly, his show is a huge money maker for the station and they’ll probably come to some arrangement so he’s back on the air.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/652 "2021-05-20T02:15:01Z")

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That was a nothing burger of an article. Was it something he said on the air, or an argument he had with management? Was he reading the news and made a comment? Is he a talk show host? Was it a jokey comment? Was it a serious thought piece? Was it a shock jock rant? Was it part of a bit?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/653 "2021-05-20T04:19:05Z")

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_The Boston Globe_ suggests it was an shock jock rant while discussing [the announcement](https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/05/19/lifestyle/demi-lovato-is-non-binary-is-changing-pronouns/) on the air.

> **[Matt Siegel, ‘Matty in the Morning’ radio host, storms off the air after...](https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/05/19/metro/matt-siegel-matty-morning-radio-host-storms-off-air-after-being-warned-about-demi-lovato-comments/)**
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> The host of the "Matty in the Morning" show on Kiss 108 FM abruptly went off the air during his show Wednesday after he was asked to stop making jokes at the expense of Demi Lovato and their decision to come out as non-binary.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/654 "2021-05-20T04:26:55Z")

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He basically said that non-binary is bullshit, and Demi Lovato is just a very confused and troubled woman (hsi words, not mine). He railed against wokeness and said that later that his boss called and told him he was out of line. He fake quit after that, but later said that he expects to be back on the air tomorrow (today).

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/655 "2021-05-20T12:32:19Z")

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“We’ll be flying at a cruising altitude of 37,000 feet … except for Shoeless, Blow-Faced Dave in seat 37-B who will be a comfortable 3-4,000 feet higher than the rest of us. Good luck, Dave.”

[Much in the same way that we shouldn’t have been _too_ surprised that Lance Armstrong _lied_ about his _serial cheating,_ it’s hard to blame this guy for being maskless if snorting blow for six consecutive hours was really part of his flight plan.]

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/656 "2021-05-20T12:50:57Z")

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And of course, he’s back on the air as if nothing happened.

> **[‘I’m here. Good morning’: morning radio host Matt Siegel returns to the...](https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/05/20/metro/im-here-good-morning-matt-siegel-host-matty-morning-returns-airwaves-thursday/)**
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> The Kiss 108 FM radio host was back on the air after abruptly signing off during Wednesday’s broadcast in the wake of being told to “stop talking” about pop star Demi Lovato’s announcement that they are non-binary.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/657 "2021-05-20T13:59:30Z")

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Setting aside the question of whether his BS about Lovato deserves further consequences, it’ll be interesting to see how he handles the next non-binary news tidbit to come his way. Which there is sure to be.

IOW, is the on-air rebuke from management real, or part of the station’s schtick to attract the _angry white men_ demographic? And if the former, will it stick?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/658 "2021-05-20T14:33:01Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> IOW, is the on-air rebuke from management real, or part of the station’s schtick to attract the _angry white men_ demographic? And if the former, will it stick?

I suspect the rebuke from management (I thought it occurred off air) is real, but toothless. He’s the biggest money maker for the station, and they know it. With the music he plays, he’s not attracting the angry white men demographic any time soon.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2021, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/659 "2021-05-20T14:44:50Z")

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I don’t know any of the details. By “on-air rebuke” I was really meaning rebuke that promptly became known to the audience. As in this wasn’t handled quietly in an office 2 hours after he was off the air then later leaked to the press.

Sorry to overstate the case.

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**Author:** ![Ziberian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/919ad9/32.png) [@Ziberian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ziberian)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2021, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/660 "2021-05-23T22:50:47Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> It’s definitely not what I’ve been saying. The insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol aren’t “retarded”. They aren’t “short-bus people”. They don’t have “brain damage.” That’s a convenient excuse.
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> These are average, every day Americans. It’s just some of us don’t actually believe in democracy. That’s painful and hard to face but that’s the way we are. Some of us are willing to throw aside the Constitution, and the law, and higher principles, and basic decency, when we don’t get what we want. Some of us Americans are actually fairly awful, and it’s not because of “brain damage.”
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> Also, I’ve mentioned this a couple of times on this board, but I literally rode the short bus when I was a kid. I was in special education programs throughout most of grade school and into high school. And I never stormed a government building. And I’m _really_ fucking tired of people, including a lot of posters on this board, using these terms as insults. People who do reprehensible things aren’t retarded. They aren’t short-bus people. They don’t have brain damage. They’re reprehensible people.
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> So all of you, yes, including many of you on this board, who talk like attorney Albert Watkins about people who do things you don’t like: Fuck you.

People who use these terms are ALWAYS ignorant, backward, bigots. Not on the surface, not in their own minds, but scratch the surface and you’ll find they’re exactly like the conservatives they pretend to criticize. It is impossible to be a decent human and think terminology like this is acceptable ever.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2021, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/661 "2021-05-24T00:48:14Z")

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They are not every day average Americans. They are evil fucks. And most are unquestionably stupid. That helps when you deny the avalanche of evidence that contradicts your position.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/662 "2021-05-25T20:51:45Z")

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This supports my theory that the Cold War conspiracy era is gone. All the classic stories like UFO encounters, Bigfoot sightings, Communist infiltrations, JFK assassinations, and the New World Orders, have faded into obscurity. QAnon has established its seniority, and will take generations to go away.

> **[QAnon Crowd Convinced UFOs Are a Diversion From Voter Fraud](https://www.thedailybeast.com/qanon-crowd-convinced-ufos-are-a-diversion-from-voter-fraud)**
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> “They want you talking about aliens because they don’t want you talking about Maricopa,” Newsmax White House correspondent Emerald Robinson tweeted.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/663 "2021-05-25T21:24:26Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> They are not every day average Americans. They are evil fucks.

As horrific as it is, saying they are every day average Americans and saying they are evil fucks aren’t actually mutually contradictory statements.

> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> And most are unquestionably stupid. That helps when you deny the avalanche of evidence that contradicts your position.

Actually, I think it’s the other way around. Being _smart_ helps you to deny an avalanche of evidence. The smarter you are, the easier it is to rationalize your position and find reasons why contrary evidence doesn’t really count.

Either way, they certainly aren’t “retarded”, “short-bus people”, or have “brain damage”.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/664 "2021-05-25T23:59:39Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> … or have “brain damage”.

As you say, they certainly don’t have “brain damage” in the sense of physical trauma to the gray matter.

But IMO they do have “mind damage”. They have been exposed to a very dangerous dose of professionally created propaganda carefully crafted using 21st Century applied psychology to short-circuit their critical thinking faculties and turn them into rage-a-holic followers of whatever guidance they are given.

Their minds may well be salvageable if we can stop them mainstreaming the dangerous drug most every waking minute. But as long as they are “high” on OANN, etc., they will be mind damaged. And will behave accordingly in severely antisocial ways.

That does not, under either our jurisprudence or my own ethical standards, excuse their behavior even a little bit. But it does show that the fix, to the degree there is one, must come from stopping the production and distribution of the dangerous drug by the few, rather than stopping the addictive and addicted consumption of it by the many.

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