# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 334
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6671 "2023-02-27T23:15:51Z")
About 14 years ago, I had to take my Passat in for service, while I was hanging around the waiting area, I mentioned to the service manager that we had seen a red Routan online (we were in the market for a new van). The sales manager let me take it for the day, while they had my car. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6672 "2023-02-27T23:17:03Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > But, for what it’s worth, plenty of Hispanics here in Arizona eat at Taco Bell despite plenty of more authentic places to choose from. _I’m just trying to fit in …_ ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6673 "2023-02-27T23:18:17Z")
Transphobic British city councilor claims that a trans woman approached her in a pub bathroom and when there were no paper towels, she told her that she was going to wipe her hands on her penis. Yeah. I’m sure she didn’t say she was going to wipe her hands on her jeans. > **[The clash between trans rights and women's safety](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11793005/How-chat-ladies-plunged-Tory-councillor-clash-trans-rights-womens-safety.html)** > > This troubling episode played on my mind as I found myself examining all sides of the debate over whether men who self-identify as women should have access to female-only spaces. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6674 "2023-02-27T23:21:40Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Transphobic British city councilor claims that a trans woman approached her in a pub bathroom and when there were no paper towels, she told her that she was going to wipe her hands on her penis. From the article: > She wore a skimpy top which made her shoulders seem bigger. And she spoke with a strikingly deep voice. A trans woman. I’m sure there was a flash of lightning and a peal of thunder right at that point. That article read very transphobic in general for me. ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6675 "2023-02-27T23:22:20Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Well, the objection was that it was illegal, not that it was ill-advised. > > It is certainly ill-advised, but it’s not illegal everywhere. And common enough in many places that it’s not shocking to hear about. That’s the second time you’ve made that claim, but so far I’ve only heard anecdotes of people who got away with it and citations of states where it is illegal. Where is it not illegal? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2023, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6676 "2023-02-27T23:36:39Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > Where is it not illegal? From some online searching I’ve done, it appears that in every state you will be cited if you don’t have a driver’s license with you. Depending on the jurisdiction, if you come to court later and show proof that you had a license with you when you were driving but it just wasn’t with you at the time, that might be waived. I’ve told the story on these boards about when that happened to me, except with my proof of insurance (it literally fell out of my wallet because it was just a thin slip of paper) and when I went to court later they took the offense off my record and I didn’t need to pay a fine. Now, in my state, if this happens with a driver’s license, you will be fined $250. If you later prove in court that you had one on you, they might reduce the penalty to $50. But they’re not going to let you off in any case. You _must_ have a license with you. [https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.20.015](https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.20.015) ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6677 "2023-02-28T00:00:55Z")
No idea. I have not bought a new car from any dealer since I moved here, and put that one on my ‘do not buy from’ list in any event. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6678 "2023-02-28T00:01:53Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > That article read very transphobic in general for me. “Article” is being charitable, seeing how it’s in the _Daily Fail_ and written by the alleged victim. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6679 "2023-02-28T00:02:24Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > “Article” is being charitable “Paranoic screed” then? > ARE we to live with the fear that every time we use a public toilet we might encounter a threatening trans woman with a penis? > > I want to raise awareness of this issue and use my platform as a councillor to make change. In Primark recently, I had my first experience using gender-neutral changing rooms. They have a little curtain but no locking door. > > I was trying on jeans and felt quite vulnerable – at risk. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6680 "2023-02-28T00:43:28Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Yeah. I’m sure she didn’t say she was going to wipe her hands on her jeans. I have a similar guess: > [@](#): > > I can’t deny I was a bit shocked. Yet there was a sense of novelty. What would she be like? Well, we had quite a nice chat, not exactly girlie, but friendly. > > I thought, ‘This is going well, I’m handling the situation fine.’ I didn’t treat her any differently. Why would I? We spoke about the paucity of loo paper, the dreadful taps and temperamental hand dryer. > > It was as she moved to the door to leave that it happened. I remarked that we had no choice but to awkwardly shake our hands dry, and she turned to me and replied: ‘I’m going to wipe my hands on my penis.’ With that, she disappeared. > > Until this, our conversation had been quite positive and pleasant. > > Now I was frozen to the spot in shock. There is no doubt in my mind that this was a threat of sorts. There’s very little doubt in my mind that the author simply misheard the speaker’s declaration that she would wipe her hands on her pants. Whether she meant her outer lower garment or her underwear, it makes total sense that you’d just quickly brush your dripping hands on your own clothed backside where the water marks will be reasonably inconspicuous. AFAICT it makes no fucking sense whatever to wipe your JUST-WASHED hands on your penis, or to announce that you plan to do so. (People with penises are free to chime in and correct me if I’m missing a cultural detail here, but I really don’t think that’s a thing.) (And AIUI, although “pants” generally means underwear in British English, some British people do occasionally do use the word to mean trousers/slacks/jeans, either as an Americanism or a regional variation. And of course, if this very tall woman in a famous London pub actually happened to be, say, a visitor from the height-enhanced populations of the Netherlands or Scandinavia, she might well use an American locution like “pants” for jeans.) ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6681 "2023-02-28T01:00:35Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The proper response is to aak her which side gramps fought for. Jeez, that’s terrific - I’m gonna steal that and then PRAY for a “situation” to rear it’s ugly head. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6682 "2023-02-28T01:47:12Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > From some online searching I’ve done, it appears that in every state you will be cited if you don’t have a driver’s license with you. Depending on the jurisdiction, if you come to court later and show proof that you had a license with you when you were driving but it just wasn’t with you at the time, that might be waived. Yeah, I was mistaken about how easy it is to clear up a case of failure to present a license - but it’s still very different than driving without having a license at all, which is generally a felony ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6683 "2023-02-28T02:11:24Z")
Great advertising for them! When you don’t want authentic, When you don’t want food, Come to Taco Bell, It pukes real good! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6684 "2023-02-28T02:18:09Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > There’s very little doubt in my mind that the author simply misheard the speaker’s declaration that she would wipe her hands on her pants. Since this is the UK, she’d most likely say “trousers”, though I agree with the previously-forwarded theory that the real word in this case was “jeans”, since it is phonetically similar to the word “penis”. Is there a term for a reverse Freudian slip? (I doubt that’s what it’s called, but I wonder if there is a term.) With a Freudian slip, you accidentally say something that is on your mind rather than the word you meant to say. In this case, it’s a case of _hearing_ what’s on your mind rather than what was actually said. > [@Kimstu](#): > > (People with penises are free to chime in and correct me if I’m missing a cultural detail here, but I really don’t think that’s a thing.) I suppose if a person had one shaped like a beaver’s tail it might work as a kind of natural hand towel, but that’s unlikely unless they previously had a terrible experience making waffles in the nude. Alternatively, if you’re gassy enough you might use the other side as an improvised blow dryer. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6685 "2023-02-28T02:32:38Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > (People with penises are free to chime in and correct me if I’m missing a cultural detail here, but I really don’t think that’s a thing.) Mine’s not nearly absorbent enough. I’d have to resort to generating heat through friction (which would probably result in MORE moisture turning up). ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6686 "2023-02-28T02:35:08Z")
Thanks. Please share here your experience if you get the opportunity to do this. And, yes, I have done this before. I got a blank stare in response. Hey, that’s a win in my book. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6687 "2023-02-28T03:02:49Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Sometimes you don’t want authentic food - you want Taco Bell. Heh. My daughter spent 20 months in Peru in the Peace Corps. When she got back home, first place she wanted to stop after we picked her up at the airport? Taco Bell, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6688 "2023-02-28T03:03:33Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > In this case, it’s a case of _hearing_ what’s on your mind rather than what was actually said. Exactly what I was thinking. The thought process probably went like this: _Oh dear, this person looks very man like. I wonder if she’s really a transexual. Hmmm. Deep voice. Maybe. I wonder if this person has a penis. Oh dear. Mustn’t think of a penis. Penis. PENIS! Stop it. Stop thinking about a penis. PENIS PENIS PENIS!_ _Oh my god. Now she’s said PENIS !!!1 Oh my GOD! PENIS!_ ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6689 "2023-02-28T03:17:00Z")
Honestly, do men actually say “penis”? Mosts guys I know use various other words – in Jolly Olde, I would expect “willie” or “tallywacker” or something of the sort. Probably not “penis” in casual conversation. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2023, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6690 "2023-02-28T03:24:56Z")
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