# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6851 "2023-03-17T15:49:26Z")

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Some folks have contracted botulism poisoning from

> **[At least 67 people got botulism after trying to paralyze their stomachs](https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/03/at-least-67-people-got-botulism-after-trying-to-paralyze-their-stomachs/)**
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> The aim was to slow digestion, but it instead led to life-threatening paralysis.

getting botulinium toxin injections.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6852 "2023-03-17T16:34:27Z")

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It is a mystery how this could have happened.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6853 "2023-03-17T16:47:34Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> > The aim was to slow digestion, but it instead led to life-threatening paralysis.

It seems unfair for the article to imply that they did not succeed in their aim.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6854 "2023-03-17T16:54:27Z")

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I was squicked out when the article reported that this is a semi-standardized weight loss treatment and that the problem was that they injected **too much** toxin. Directly into stomach muscles. Using a syringe at the end of an endoscope.

Brrrrrr.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6855 "2023-03-17T17:46:30Z")

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The US has an obesity epidemic, which has absolutely nothing to do with America being heavily saturated with ads for _doesn’t this look ever so tasty, aren’t you hungry?_

though, admittedly, the stories are primarily from places outside the US

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6856 "2023-03-17T17:57:03Z")

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I can see this. Botox in the stomach muscles is less intrusive than bariatric surgery, and should be more easily reversible. The real bit of stupidity is getting botox injections from a back alley doctor.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2023, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6857 "2023-03-17T18:00:42Z")

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I’ll have you know that Dr. Nick Riviera has a medical degree from Hollywood Upstairs Medical College.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6858 "2023-03-18T00:35:23Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Botox in the stomach muscles … should be more easily reversible.

The story suggests otherwise. It seems that the botulinium toxin binds permanently, making the resulting paralysis irreversible.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6859 "2023-03-18T01:02:51Z")

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That’s not what I read.

> [@The Article](#):
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> This is intended to keep people feeling full longer, leading to reduced appetite for as long as the toxin’s effects last, which can be around three months.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6860 "2023-03-18T01:21:11Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> That’s not what I read.

But you said it was “more easily reversible”. It is not, in the sense that botulinum toxin binds irreversibly, from which point antitoxin has no effect. Whatever the effect at that point, whether it’s what you wanted or life-threatening paralysis, the only path to recovery takes several months for the nerves to repair the damage.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6861 "2023-03-18T01:23:36Z")

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Gotcha. That’s what I get for doing two things at once. I should have have said "less permanent. "

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6862 "2023-03-18T01:41:23Z")

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Student athlete pushes one-legged woman’s empty wheelchair down atairs in full view of cameras

> **[Carson Briere, son of Flyers GM Danny Briere, suspended for pushing...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/hockey/2023/03/15/carson-briere-apologizes-pushing-wheelchair-down-stairs/11479105002/)**
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> Mercyhurst hockey player Carson Briere, son of Flyers interim GM Danny Briere, was suspended for pushing an unoccupied wheelchair down the stairs.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6863 "2023-03-18T03:32:58Z")

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I see, at a bar… so the stupidity had opportunity to get juiced up to assholery.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6864 "2023-03-18T10:06:33Z")

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He’s been kicked of a hockey team for _Arizona State_, which is not a school known for decorum and good behavior as far as I have heard secondhand.

I’m sure his wrist will be lightly bruised by a gentle slap.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6865 "2023-03-18T13:49:49Z")

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And he can’t figure out how to wear a ball cap. Don’t really need to know anything else about him.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6866 "2023-03-18T21:22:57Z")

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To be fair, compared to some other examples of stupid MFery in this thread, I’m a bit grudgingly impressed at how nobody is making excuses for this asshole, including the asshole himself. Looks like a case of “drunk teen thinks it’ll be funny to play with gravity by doing a little random property damage, nobody is amused”.

The person I’m non-grudgingly impressed with, though, is the wheelchair owner who cut off the GoFundMe for the wheelchair repairs and pledged to give the extra money to disabled people who need it. (However, it is absolutely drunk asshole teen who should be paying for these wheelchair repairs, not the wheelchair owner or GoFundMe donors, and I hope that that will be what happens. Preferably with money he has to earn by shoveling fresh pig manure in 90+ degree heat.)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2023, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6867 "2023-03-18T21:42:59Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> (However, it is absolutely drunk asshole teen who should be paying for these wheelchair repairs, not the wheelchair owner or GoFundMe donors, and I hope that that will be what happens. Preferably with money he has to earn by shoveling fresh pig manure in 90+ degree heat.)

If he’s actually the son of a pro hockey general manager, then his family can probably easily afford it.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6868 "2023-03-19T14:39:32Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> son of a pro hockey general manager

Why does that sound, to me, like what Mike Pence yells after accidentally striking his thumb with a hammer?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6869 "2023-03-19T14:52:47Z")

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Yeah, although I can’t picture Pence doing anything resembling manual labor.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/6870 "2023-03-19T14:58:18Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Yeah, although I can’t picture Pence doing anything resembling manual labor. -

You never know what kind of kink he and Mother engage in.

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