# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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Gotta admire his determination.😄

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “What is going on?”
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> It’s gotta be SATAN!\*

I sometimes wonder if some of these people are actually worshipping a (non-existent) demon; but are convinced that the demon is a god. A loving god, yet.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7073 "2023-04-11T17:48:47Z")

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> [@](#):
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> "Trains being derailed. UFO’s all over the place. Chickens struggling to lay eggs. Food processing centers on fire. Tons of people dropping suddenly. "

By the way, the top conspiracy theory about chickens “struggling to lay eggs” is that [RNA is being added to their feed](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/jan/25/tiktok-posts/rna-making-chickens-lay-fewer-eggs-no-improper-nut/).\*

So it’s _indirectly_ Satan who’s responsible.

\*That same bad old RNA in Covid-19 vaccines has been blamed for causing lower fertility in women. Connect the dots.:.:.  
\*\*I have a t-shirt that says “Food tastes better with DNA”. Looks like I picked the wrong nucleic acid.

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> "Trains being derailed. UFO’s all over the place. Chickens struggling to lay eggs. Food processing centers on fire. Tons of people dropping suddenly. "

“Dogs and cats sleeping together. Mass hysteria!”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7075 "2023-04-11T21:27:54Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I sometimes wonder if some of these people are actually worshipping a (non-existent) demon; but are convinced that the demon is a god. A loving god, yet.

Well, technically, a demon is a superbeing, of indeterminate potency. But more importantly, the evidence (that book thing) suggests that jehovallah has much better PR, because it is recorded as being a much more vile asshole than beelzebub ever was. The church people appear to be worshipping the evil one.

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> The church people appear to be worshipping the evil one

That’s the deity that sent bears to tear apart children because they mocked one of his mouthpieces, amirite?

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The list of atrocities attributed to the loving deity is quite large, while the deity’s foe appears to be, one might say, mostly harmless.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7078 "2023-04-12T00:28:36Z")

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I think one of the concepts is that The Devil/Satan isn’t really a foe of God, he’s a foe of humanity. God is all-powerful, he doesn’t have any foes. He could erase Satan from existence at any time and doesn’t do so for His own reasons.

I’m trying to think of a good analogy. Consider you live in a neighborhood with a really awful neighbor. This is a guy who tosses garbage in your front yard as he walks by, plays loud obnoxious music at all hours of the night, makes catcalls to women and gives snide insults in your interactions. There is nothing good about him. Just a total asshole.

When you catch him in a crime, or violating some city ordnance, you call the cops or report him to some authority or another. Now, compared to the government, he’s small potatoes. The government has committed all kinds of atrocities. You can say the government is the real evil, compared to the government this neighbor is nothing. Instead of reporting him, rebel against the government.

That’s not a perfect analogy, I know. But I think that’s how sane Christians view things. Obviously God allows a lot of awful things to happen, or has directly caused them. But also good things. Ultimately, God is the authority to appeal to, to try to appease. Just as a normal citizen tries to obey the law, so a Christian tries to follow the tenets of the faith. And while Satan is relatively powerless compared to God, just as your asshole neighbor is relatively powerless compared to the government, Satan is someone you can resist, just as your neighbor is someone you can do something about.

Since people are effectively bashing Christians in this thread, I thought it would be useful to give a bit of perspective for how at least one Christian looks at it.

And Kristina Karamo is batshit crazy, and using Christianity to justify the fucked up shit she says doesn’t endear her to me. Quite the opposite, it infuriates me.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Since people are effectively bashing Christians in this thread, I thought it would be useful to give a bit of perspective for how at least one Christian looks at it.

I know that there are a whole lot of Christians, that they don’t all believe the same things, that they don’t all have the same attitudes. I certainly didn’t mean to bash all Christians. I said “some of these people”, by which I meant a particular subtype of religious people, whether claiming to be Christian or claiming other religions.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7080 "2023-04-12T01:03:37Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I certainly didn’t mean to bash all Christians. I said “some of these people”, by which I meant a particular subtype of religious people, whether claiming to be Christian or claiming other religions.

I’m right there with you, if you want to bash Christians like that, I’ll hand you the bat. Let me have a turn while you’re at it. Fuck them.

Oh, and I was mostly not talking about you.

Also, I don’t even mind mostly when people bash Christians in general, because let’s be honest, lots of Christians are assholes. Maybe most. But I also like to give a bit of perspective as one, just to give the other side. (I’m not saying I’m an _asshole_, though maybe I am, most assholes probably don’t see themselves that way.)

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Sometimes a one-sentence article is _more_ than enough, and this one of those occasions.

> **[Christina Aguilera shows off 'vagina manicure' during X-rated interview](https://ca.style.yahoo.com/christina-aguilera-shows-off-vagina-104351422.html)**
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> Christina Aguilera shows off 'vagina manicure' during X-rated interview. Source: Call Her Daddy, Spotify

Trying to be beautiful in every single way?

ETA: Gwyneth must be hopping mad jealous.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7082 "2023-04-12T02:58:15Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> [Christina Aguilera shows off 'vagina manicure' during X-rated interview - Yahoo News Canada](https://ca.style.yahoo.com/christina-aguilera-shows-off-vagina-104351422.html) -

> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Trying to be beautiful in every single way?
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> ETA: Gwyneth must be hopping mad jealous.

Just wait until she unveils “Paltrow Toe”.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7083 "2023-04-12T03:25:18Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> I know that there are a whole lot of Christians, that they don’t all believe the same things, that they don’t all have the same attitudes. I certainly didn’t mean to bash all Christians. I said “some of these people”, by which I meant a particular subtype of religious people, whether claiming to be Christian or claiming other religions.

It’s also true that there are posters who will take any opening and enlarge it beyond recognition.

The problem is, you can’t say that any one religious-based belief is any worse than any other as a reflection of reality. It’s all magic, after all. Personally, I no longer give internal credit for someone who has “the good kind” of religion. It’s all irrational, and it all leads to craziness in the end. Some cases just take longer to develop. In my opinion.

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> It’s also true that there are posters who will take any opening and enlarge it beyond recognition.

Sequential posts, lordy!

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Personally, as a Christian, I much prefer people who emulate how Christ said to behave while bashing Christians, over people who praise Christ while hating their neighbor.

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> The problem is, you can’t say that any one religious-based belief is any worse than any other as a reflection of reality.

Even aside from any arguments about reflections of reality: In terms of the effect on those who aren’t members of the religion, and for that matter of the effect on those who are, there most certainly are differences.

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> > [@eschereal](#):
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> > The church people appear to be worshipping the evil one
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> That’s the deity that sent bears to tear apart children because they mocked one of his mouthpieces, amirite

The same one who commanded Israel to kill their enemies’ infant children, yes:

_Now go and strike Amalek and completely destroy everything that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey._ - I Samuel 15:3, New American Standard Bible

> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I think one of the concepts is that The Devil/Satan isn’t really a foe of God, he’s a foe of humanity. God is all-powerful, he doesn’t have any foes. He could erase Satan from existence at any time and doesn’t do so for His own reasons.

A Hebrew literature professor I had in college, talking about the Book of Job, noted that Satan appears before God in that book, among the other “sons of God”, and is charged by him to persecute Job. The professor suggested that the Israelites’ original conception of Satan - which means “adversary” in Hebrew - was as an agent of God’s judgment; something akin to a prosecuting attorney.

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I have the morning news on. The weather woman just showed a map of the United States, illustrating higher-than-normal temperatures back east. She said [paraphrasing], ‘Keep in mind that the East Coast has three extra hours of daylight for warming.’

Um…

On reflection, maybe I’m the stupid motherhumper. She _could_ have been displaying the _current_ temperatures. That’s what I get for working with the TV on for noise.

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> She said [paraphrasing], ‘Keep in mind that the East Coast has three extra hours of daylight for warming.’

That is accurate if you’re just showing current temperatures rather than, say, averages or highs. If it’s 9 AM on the west coast and noon on the east coast, naturally the time of day could be a factor for why it’s currently warmer on the east coast.

I’m being charitable I know, but given the fact that you’re paraphrasing it’s difficult to judge how stupid her actual comment was.

ETA: Posted before your edit.

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> She said [paraphrasing], ‘Keep in mind that the East Coast has three extra hours of daylight for warming.’

I wonder if she meant that the sun rises three hours earlier in the Eastern time zone, and therefore the east coast has had three more hours of sunlight to reach its current temperature, relative to the current temperature on the west coast.

Similarly, if you compare temperatures at 10 p.m. Eastern time, you’d expect them to be cooler on the east coast than the west. The sun has already gone down on the east coast, so the temperature will already be dropping. The sun is still up on the west coast, so (all other things being equal) it’ll be warmer.

It wasn’t phrased very well, but that may have been her intent.

(Just saw the new reply, but I’m posting this anyway.)

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