# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7091 "2023-04-12T17:43:33Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Personally, as a Christian, I much prefer people who emulate how Christ said to behave while bashing Christians, over people who praise Christ while hating their neighbor.

To quote [Jimmy Snow](https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Jimmy_Snow), “I don’t care what you believe but rather how you treat other people.”

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7092 "2023-04-12T18:29:17Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> > [@Chronos](#):
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> > Personally, as a Christian, I much prefer people who emulate how Christ said to behave while bashing Christians, over people who praise Christ while hating their neighbor.
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> To quote [Jimmy Snow](https://youtube.fandom.com/wiki/Jimmy_Snow), “I don’t care what you believe but rather how you treat other people.”

Funnily enough, that’s what Jesus said.

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7093 "2023-04-12T18:33:06Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Now go and strike Amalek and completely destroy everything that he has, and do not spare him; but put to death both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.

Even the fuckin’ livestock, mind you. Whoever they were these dudes _really_ pissed him off.

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Funnily enough, that’s what Jesus said.

I can easily see that you can get that from the way Jesus is portrayed in the gospels (the good Samaritan, inviting a whore to his table and washing her feet etc.), but does he really explicitly say this anywhere?

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7095 "2023-04-12T19:06:39Z")

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Not in those exact words, but [Matthew 25:34-46](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A34-46&version=NIV) makes it pretty clear:

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> 34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
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> 37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
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> 40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
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> 41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
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> 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
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> 45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
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> 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Those who receive the eternal reward did good for other people, and didn’t even realize that by doing so they were serving Jesus, and those who don’t, spurned other people, without even realizing that they were spurning Jesus. Both those who were rewarded and those who were punished were surprised.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7096 "2023-04-12T19:13:19Z")

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Thanks, I had forgotten this passage, or rather didn’t link it to this statement/sentiment. If only all those “good Christians” would sometimes live/think/act at least a little like Jesus told them to…

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From your lips …

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Or as we were taught in Catholic school (and as kind of a counter to the “salvation by faith alone” argument), charity — good works — is how faith manifests itself.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7099 "2023-04-12T19:45:57Z")

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Sure, I learned that too as a good Catholic boy, but that doesn’t mean that there’s not also a lot of bigotry in the Catholic church (though the bigotry there tends to be more of a problem for the clergy than the laity).

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7100 "2023-04-12T21:10:19Z")

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Not to mention the child rape.  
(Ex-Catholic here. 12 years of Catholic school and lots of mass attendance.)

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**Post date:** [April 12, 2023, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7101 "2023-04-12T21:19:08Z")

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I meant to include the child rape under bigotry from the clergy, of course the most severe and damning. Also ex-Catholic, altar boy from age 9 to freaking 17. I was lucky that we had a non-pedophile priest.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7102 "2023-04-13T13:08:32Z")

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> **[Train Operator No Longer With Metro After He Put Train In Automatic Mode, Ate...](https://dcist.com/story/23/04/12/train-operator-no-longer-with-metro-after-they-put-train-in-automatic-mode-ate-while-driving/)**
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> Video from the cab also shows the former Metro employee eating a meal while operating the train. Both are against Metro's rules.

> A spokesperson says the operator, whose name is not being released, admitted fault, saying he “was curious to see if ATO (Automatic Train Operation) would work.”
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> The incident happened on March 17. Metro officials discovered the automatic mode after the train overran the station platform at Innovation Center on the Silver Line. They say the operator put his train into automatic mode several times that day.

Exactly how curious were you, operator?

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I just woke up so maybe this makes sense in another world, but why do they have an automatic mode if they’re not suppose to use it?

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And why does the automatic mode work so poorly?

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7105 "2023-04-13T13:37:13Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I just woke up so maybe this makes sense in another world, but why do they have an automatic mode if they’re not suppose to use it?

Metro was designed to operate in automatic mode but hasn’t been used since this incident:

> **[June 2009 Washington Metro train collision](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2009_Washington_Metro_train_collision)**
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> During the afternoon rush hour of June 22, 2009, a subway train wreck occurred between two southbound Red Line Washington Metro trains in Northeast, Washington, D.C., United States. A moving train collided with a train stopped ahead of it; the train operator along with eight passengers died, and 80 people were injured, making it the deadliest crash in the history of the Washington Metro.
> The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) investigation found that after a June 17 replacement of a t...

> Train 214 had come to a stop entirely within the faulty circuit B2-304, making it effectively invisible to the automatic train control (ATC) system. Other trains had received speed commands of 0 when traveling through this circuit, but had enough forward momentum to make it to the next circuit and resume detection and receipt of speed commands from the ATC system. Train 214 was going slower than normal because it was being driven in manual mode by its operator, and it came to a stop while remaining on circuit B2-304 and was therefore invisible. Train 112 behind it was given full speed (55 mph [89 km/h]) commands by the ATC to proceed on the track. The investigation found that the emergency brakes had been applied by the operator of train 112 when train 214 came into view but it was too late to avert the collision, which occurred with a speed of about 49 mph (79 km/h).[[1]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2009_Washington_Metro_train_collision#cite_note-NTSBreport-1)

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And why does the automatic mode work so poorly?

That’s what Metro aims to discover, presumably while the system is closed to passengers, before resuming automatic operation

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Metro was designed to operate in automatic mode but hasn’t been used since this incident:

I’m m wondering if there was a way to disable it, to prevent this sort of thing from happening. Like removing a lever/button/whatever.

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7108 "2023-04-13T13:59:52Z")

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If I’m understanding the linked article (and I might not be, I skimmed it pretty quickly), it sounds like the problem wasn’t the train, it was the track. Maybe they’re allowed to use it, but not in that section.  
But this type of thing, ISTM, tends to end up with a ‘don’t use’ sign on it since they’re going to fix it “some day”.

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I’m m wondering if there was a way to disable it, to prevent this sort of thing from happening. Like removing a lever/button/whatever.

They’ve had a solution since Apollo 13.

[![](https://i0.wp.com/francesquilts.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/D0ipvuvXgAAQS4W.jpg) ](https://i0.wp.com/francesquilts.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/D0ipvuvXgAAQS4W.jpg)

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**Post date:** [April 13, 2023, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7110 "2023-04-13T14:03:06Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> But this type of thing, ISTM, tends to end up with a ‘don’t use’ sign on it since they’re going to fix it “some day”.

“Some day” in this case appears to be this year.

> **[Metro Preparing to Bring Back Automatic Train Operation for 1st Time Since...](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/transportation/metro-preparing-to-bring-back-automatic-train-operation-for-1st-time-since-deadly-2009-crash/3293031/)**
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> Metro is making final preparations to change the way it operates its trains.

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