# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 365
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7291 "2023-05-05T04:13:40Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > He really is stupid, isn’t he? Need answer fast? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7292 "2023-05-05T04:57:09Z")
That reminds me so much of how [the Pebble Beach Co. tries to stop people from even taking a photo of the famous Lone Cypress](https://www.knowmad.law/blog-post/2017/09/15/dont-talk-about-our-tree-pebble-beachs-lone-cypress-trademark). ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7293 "2023-05-05T05:10:52Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > Disney’s trademark is in the Disney _name_ in that font, not the font itself. And as long as DeSantis is not using the Disney name (or something confusingly similar) to promote any of the products or services that Disney offers, he is not violating a Disney trademark. IMHO. IANAL. I was at a museum last weekend and found out that a font can not be trademarked, but the name can. They said one of the fonts in Microsoft Word is identical to a pre-existing font, but they just changed the name. I can’t remember what the names are, though. > [@Monty](#): > > That reminds me so much of how [the Pebble Beach Co. tries to stop people from even taking a photo of the famous Lone Cypress](https://www.knowmad.law/blog-post/2017/09/15/dont-talk-about-our-tree-pebble-beachs-lone-cypress-trademark). There’s a street on Beacon Hill in Boston (the old-money part of the city) that’s particularly photogenic. I think they try to prevent professional photographers from shooting there, but still plenty of tourists. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7294 "2023-05-05T06:51:16Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > They said one of the fonts in Microsoft Word is identical to a pre-existing font In the traditional SD… well, tradition, this requires a nit-pick. I assume that you refer to the fonts Helvetica and Arial. Granted, they are superficially similar, but anyone with similar or above expertise in typography to myself - and I am basing my “expertise” on nothing more than being married to a graphic designer - they are actually fairly different and it appears that Arial was not really influenced by Helvetica. > **[Arial vs. Helvetica - Fonts.com | Fonts.com](https://www.myfonts.com/pages/fontscom-learning-fyti-typefaces-arial-vs-helvetica)** > > Arial vs. Helvetica - Fonts.com | Fonts.com Arial vs. Helvetica Previous Article Next Article by Ilene Strizver We’ve all heard of the Arial® and Helvetica® ... (As you can imagine, evenings down at the bar with my circle of friends involves a lot of discussion about kerning, letter spacing, line height and similar typographical concepts both online and physical. We are super fun.) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7295 "2023-05-05T13:32:52Z")
Fonts matter! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/jVhlJNJopOQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Papyrus - SNL") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhlJNJopOQ) ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7296 "2023-05-05T13:58:47Z")
Great piece. I love that the final frame is the word papyrus in Comic Sans, _the_ most derided font ever. (Papyrus is a distant second.) ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7297 "2023-05-05T15:18:20Z")
And today, [in Florida Man news](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/05/us/florida-liberty-high-school-umpire-punched/index.html), a guy sucker-punches a 63-year-old disabled man umpiring a high school baseball game for giving FM’s son an unsportsmanlike conduct warning during the game. Truly, the nut does not fall far from the tree. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7298 "2023-05-05T15:29:32Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > Granted, they are superficially similar, but anyone with similar or above expertise in typography to myself - and I am basing my “expertise” on nothing more than being married to a graphic designer - they are actually fairly different and it appears that Arial was not really influenced by Helvetica. I heard it from someone at the Museum of Printing. I figured they should know what they’re talking about, but maybe he was just repeating a known, but incorrect conventional wisdom. I recently redid my résumé in Doves Press. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7299 "2023-05-05T15:34:13Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > Great piece. I love that the final frame is the word papyrus in Comic Sans, _the_ most derided font ever. (Papyrus is a distant second.) - It has it’s uses. [https://www.learningandthebrain.com/blog/dont-hate-on-comic-sans-it-helps-dyslexic-readers-asterisk/](https://www.learningandthebrain.com/blog/dont-hate-on-comic-sans-it-helps-dyslexic-readers-asterisk/) ETA: [https://omgfacts.com/article/1024](https://omgfacts.com/article/1024) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7300 "2023-05-05T16:18:48Z")
> [@scudsucker](#): > > I assume that you refer to the fonts Helvetica and Arial. > > Granted, they are superficially similar, but anyone with similar or above expertise in typography to myself - and I am basing my “expertise” on nothing more than being married to a graphic designer - they are actually fairly different and it appears that Arial was not really influenced by Helvetica. Sadly, they do share the same defect, which makes me hate them both with the hot hate of \<_insert your metaphor here_\>. I have iffy eyesight, which means that the sixes and nines with that tail that curls back around can be difficult to distinguish from eights and sometimes zeros. It is absolutely infuriating when a spreadsheet insists upon defaulting to these fucked-up fonts, when reading numbers is particularly important. Why force me to expend extra effort to read the numbers when a Gothic or Optima is so much easier to read? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7301 "2023-05-05T16:30:58Z")
I’ve always been partial to the Geneva font myself. (I grew up using Macs.) ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7302 "2023-05-05T16:54:19Z")
Palatino or die! ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7303 "2023-05-05T17:03:28Z")
You Dopers are truly a collective font of knowledge. [I went from Phoenix, Arizona, learned to type in Tahoma …] ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7304 "2023-05-05T18:11:16Z")
The school should take a cue from South Jersey: > **[New Jersey little league debuts policy that requires aggressive spectators to...](https://www.cbssports.com/general/news/new-jersey-little-league-debuts-policy-that-requires-aggressive-spectators-to-serve-as-umpires/)** > > If these parents have an issue with the umpires, they will have to do the job themselves ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7305 "2023-05-05T18:13:21Z")
They, they have to be better than Angel Hernandez! ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7306 "2023-05-05T18:13:25Z")
“… so then I punched myself in the face.” ---
**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7307 "2023-05-05T18:42:41Z")
This one really pinged my “WTF” meter. > **[Is It "Abuse of Corpse" to Have Sex on Mattress That Partly Covers Your...](https://reason.com/volokh/2023/05/05/is-it-abuse-of-corpse-to-have-sex-on-mattress-that-partly-covers-your-ex-girlfriends-dead-body/)** > > From Wednesday's opinion in State v. Howard, by Judge Robyn Aoyagi: In March 2019, N died of an accidental drug overdose... But no question, that is one stupid person, even if it wasn’t his M he was F’ing ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7308 "2023-05-05T19:18:43Z")
That is one case that could involve measurement of every item involved and analyzing if bottom half sexual force can channel through packing crates and a pile of clothes hard enough to fit the definition of abuse. Definitely fits the definition of stupid, though. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7309 "2023-05-05T19:31:11Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > That is one case that could involve measurement of every item involved and **analyzing if bottom half sexual force can channel through packing crates and a pile of clothes hard enough to fit the definition of abuse.** Definitely fits the definition of stupid, though. - A confounding factor is that a fresh corpse wouldn’t be as damaged as one that has…aged. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7310 "2023-05-05T20:09:35Z")
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