# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7471 "2023-05-28T04:16:05Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> To be fair, thanks to a forwarding account I set up during the last election, I get an awful lot of appeals from the Trump organization asking for donations and selling a lot of stuff. None of it has included the Trump Bucks or other crap mentioned in the article.

Yes, I wasn’t suggesting Trump was necessarily involved. It’s more the deluded thought process, that the fact that something is a con _implies_ that he’s not, because we all know he’s such an upstanding honorable chap fighting for truth, justice and the American Way.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7472 "2023-05-28T06:34:39Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> If you want to see the grift that the Trump faithful are falling for, here’s a link to one of the Trump Bucks pages.

I saw a video on TikTok advertising this scam, with a really fake-sounding imitation of Trump supposedly talking to Fox News, except the anchors were just looping the same motions. It was really pathetic.

But these are people that literally think Obama raped babies, JFK Jr will rise from the dead, and Trump won the last election. They’re gullible saps who will believe any lie that supports their bigotry, fear, and hatred. The idea that there is a secret money that they can turn in for a fortune backed by the Trump Messiah’s vast riches is pretty plausible compared to a lot of the batshit Q conspiracies these sad degenerates believe in.

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7473 "2023-05-28T06:37:32Z")

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I know that they’re suffering, and probably many of them have friends and family who are tearing their hair out over them, but I’m struggling to work up any sympathy for the victims of this particular scam.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7474 "2023-05-28T09:09:25Z")

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But why? Why do they believe all of this? It can’t be as simple as “Faux Noos said so!” I know this has been discussed and argued over and over. I’m just astonished every time I hear about this stuff.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7475 "2023-05-28T13:16:54Z")

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Don’t tell a guy that he’s got a little dick. Especially if he’s a cop.

> **[Disgraced deputy cries as he's sent to prison for life for executing lover...](https://lawandcrime.com/crazy/disgraced-deputy-cries-as-hes-sent-to-prison-for-executing-lover-who-belittled-his-manhood-and-leaving-body-in-elevator-overnight/)**
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> A longtime sheriff's deputy who admittedly murdered a woman he was having an affair with after she insulted the size of his penis was sent to prison.

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7476 "2023-05-28T13:18:03Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> But why? Why do they believe all of this? It can’t be as simple as “Faux Noos said so!” I know this has been discussed and argued over and over. I’m just astonished every time I hear about this stuff.

Motivated reasoning. Their emotional desires to be rich/not to be shown to be wrong/cause pain to “the other” overwhelm any critical thinking skills they may (or more likely may not) have.

I’d also guess they’ve been raised in situations where reason/critical thinking are of little import compared to doing what you’re told by authority figures.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7477 "2023-05-28T13:23:47Z")

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Former cop, apparently.

> Cunningham resigned from his deputy job after failing a drug test in 2018. The defendant’s LinkedIn said that Cunningham went on to start a “local small business specializing in providing property management and security services.”

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7478 "2023-05-28T13:32:40Z")

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> [@Hamlet](#):
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> I’d also guess they’ve been raised in situations where reason/critical thinking are of little import compared to doing what you’re told by authority figures.

I think this is a significant part of the problem. Critical thinking, beyond that required to identify and avoid danger to oneself, doesn’t seem to be instinctive: it has to be taught, or at least demonstrated.

If I had stuck with the elementary education I got from nuns in the 1950s, I have a feeling that I might be as credulous as some of these unfortunates. Fortunately, four years in a Jesuit high school changed all that (though it took a few years beyond that for the lessons to have an effect).

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7479 "2023-05-28T14:16:50Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Not the same thing: it is possible — though difficult — to cure ignorance

It’s possible to reduce ignorance. It’s not possible to “cure” ignorance – there’s way more information in the universe than fits in any human head. We’re all ignorant of a whole lot of stuff.

What’s possible is to become better aware of in what areas one’s ignorant, and, when one has to make decisions (or wants to opine) in those areas, to study up on them first. And it would certainly be possible to teach this in school; as well as how to study up on areas one’s ignorant in (how to judge sources, etc.) Unfortunately, it’s often not done; and, even more unfortunately, there are some who are benefitting from others’ ignorance who do their best to make sure it’s not done.

> [@Railer13](#):
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> Don’t tell a guy that he’s got a little dick. Especially if he’s a cop.

Arguably true. However, it’s even more true that one shouldn’t murder people for doing so. Especially if one’s a cop.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7480 "2023-05-28T16:17:14Z")

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Huffing fumes from aerosol deodorant is supposedly a social media phenomenon, [occasionally with fatal results](https://people.com/australian-teen-dies-chroming-trend-inhaling-aerosol-propellants-7501654).

At least one retailer in Australia is locking up aerosol deodorant (do a lot of people still use it in that form?) in display cases to discourage juvenile “chromers” who presumably would have to show proof of age or be accompanied by an adult to purchase it.

I can remember in my youth, being thwarted in an effort to buy rubber cement or its equivalent to construct an airplane model, due to prevalence of [juvenile delinquent huffers](https://www.semcoop.com/model-airplanes-are-decadent-and-depraved-glue-sniffing-epidemic-1960s) buying up the stuff. Of course, [there’ve been adult users too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WAwuSK36Gw).

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7481 "2023-05-28T17:18:04Z")

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Best as I can tell “chroming” is just the new/regional word for huffing. I’m not sure there’s anything special about it, is there?  
Back in the day, I remember hearing the metallic spray paints would get you higher and I’m WAGing that’s where the name chroming came from.  
When I learned that (probably in DARE), I kinda blew it off, but it seems like anytime you see a picture of someone that’s been huffing spray paint, it’s nearly always gold or silver.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7482 "2023-05-28T17:27:38Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> Back in the day, I remember hearing the metallic spray paints would get you higher and I’m WAGing that’s where the name chroming came from.

In _Fury Road_, that was the term they used for huffing paint to get high.

> **[Chrome](https://madmax.fandom.com/wiki/Chrome)**
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> Chrome is a slang term used by War Boys. It can mean a variety of different things, due to the value placed on chrome as an alloy, it is primarily used in a religious context. It is also believed that the more chrome something is, the more glorious...

I don’t know if the film got the term from the prevalent slang, or vice versa. I doubt it’s a coincidence though. The film came out 8 years ago.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7483 "2023-05-28T18:55:41Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Huffing fumes from aerosol deodorant is supposedly a social media phenomenon, [occasionally with fatal results](https://people.com/australian-teen-dies-chroming-trend-inhaling-aerosol-propellants-7501654).

Ron White: “You can’t fix stupid.”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2023, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7484 "2023-05-28T19:20:26Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> What’s possible is to become better aware of in what areas one’s ignorant, and, when one has to make decisions (or wants to opine) in those areas, to study up on them first. And it would certainly be possible to teach this in school; as well as how to study up on areas one’s ignorant in (how to judge sources, etc.) Unfortunately, it’s often not done; and, even more unfortunately, there are some who are benefitting from others’ ignorance who do their best to make sure it’s not done.

I’ve worked in many schools, and I’ve yet to see one where this wasn’t a priority. Unfortunately, the teaching often doesn’t set in.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7485 "2023-05-29T00:11:51Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> In _Fury Road_, that was the term they used for huffing paint to get high.

…So that’s what they were doing? I could tell it had some kind of ritual significance, but I never really understood what was happening.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7486 "2023-05-29T00:46:40Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I could tell it had some kind of ritual significance, but I never really understood what was happening.

It was supposed to be the same as what Vikings did, where they would drink mead to put themselves into a state of fearlessness before battle. They even spoke about going to Valhalla in the movie, just like Viking raiders.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7487 "2023-05-29T02:59:29Z")

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Holy Chrome!

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7488 "2023-05-29T03:14:41Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> It was supposed to be the same as what Vikings did, where they would drink mead to put themselves into a state of fearlessness before battle.

Although AIUI [the War Boys themselves just think of it as a “war paint” ritual gesture to look more impressive and frightening.](https://screenrant.com/mad-max-fury-road-war-boys-chrome-meaning/)

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> The process of spraying chrome-colored spray paint across their bared teeth is seemingly just a tribal display of power and courage, but Immortan Joe’s actor once offered an answer for why the character’s devotees do this. In an interview with [_CraveOnline_](https://www.mandatory.com/fun/857843-exclusive-interview-mad-max-villain-immortan-joe), recurring [_Mad Max_series villain](https://screenrant.com/mad-max-immortan-joe-fury-road-ending-tease/) Hugh Keays-Byrne said that although the War Boys think what they’re doing is purely ritualistic, it actually involves inhaling "_a very euphoric drug_ " which makes them suicidally devoted to his character. […]
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> As such, this process is both believable and rooted in reality, while also being left ambiguous enough for viewers to see the ritual the way Max would—as a surreal, unexplained oddity no one stops to clarify.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7489 "2023-05-29T06:57:37Z")

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[This headline from Military.com](https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/05/23/study-finds-fewer-vets-back-qanon-many-accept-racist-conspiracy-theory.html?ESRC=dod_230526.nl) seems to qualify for this thread.

> Nearly 1 in 3 Veterans Agree with Racist Great Replacement Theory, Rand Study Finds

That’s pretty appalling.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2023, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7490 "2023-05-29T09:33:14Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > Nearly 1 in 3 Veterans Agree with Racist Great Replacement Theory, Rand Study Finds
> 
> That’s pretty appalling.

But how do you reconcile that with:

> a much smaller number of veterans, compared to the general population, say they believe in white supremacy, the QAnon conspiracy theory and left-wing extremism

If true, that part is surprisingly good news, given that the average age of veterans is 58.

Regarding the headline - I’m always skeptical about sensational claimed polling results like this. Unless you know exactly what question was asked and in what context and what the allowed responses were, it’s difficult to evaluate the headline claim about the Great Replacement Theory.

Also, 28% is “nearly 1 in 3” only to the extent that 3 is nearly 4.

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