# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7531 "2023-05-31T22:52:29Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Well, also, they were motivated by the fear that they could be tricked into putting their hand up their date’s dress and finding man stuff instead of girl stuff.

_ **Charlie Harper:** “In my defense, he was taped, tucked and **gorgeous**.”_

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7532 "2023-05-31T23:11:31Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Well, also, they were motivated by the fear that they could be tricked into putting their hand up their date’s dress and finding man stuff instead of girl stuff.

And of course, to them, any female would be a “girl”, a mere child, whereas a male is a “man”, an adult.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7533 "2023-05-31T23:43:00Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> And of course, to them, any female would be a “girl”

That’s how I hear the tone of voice that some people use when they refer to women as “gals”.

I may be prejudiced against the word because my dad would say “Oh, I’ll just have one of the gals at work type this up.” One example was the itinerary for our family vacation. (This was a bank, back in the '70s, by which point everyone should’ve known better.)

He gave me some serious man-to-man advice once:

> I don’t like to hire gals for any important jobs. Any one of them could get pregnant. Or before you know it, they’ll get married and then they’re gone.

But so many people use “gals” that I wonder if it’s just me…

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7534 "2023-05-31T23:52:22Z")

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Well, it’s not JUST you…

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7535 "2023-06-01T00:40:38Z")

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Some days, okay, **most** days, I just wish we used gender-neutral pronouns. Always. Period. Just save everyone the headache. It’s more efficient and easier. If you want to use a generic descriptor, use one that’s _really_ generic.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7536 "2023-06-01T01:28:41Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> I really love this,  
> _“It’s only a matter of time until they start putting tranny semen in the frosted lemonade at this point,” [self-described political strategist, Joey Mannarino] tweeted._

And the only reason he postulated that particular disgusting stunt\* is, no doubt, he’s thought of doing it himself “to teach someone a lesson” _or already has done so_.

\*By this I mean he’s used his own semen for the “stunt”.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7537 "2023-06-01T01:31:10Z")

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I don’t really want to see his browsing history or the pr0n folder on his hard drive . . . 'cause we all know what’s there.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7538 "2023-06-01T01:38:08Z")

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Before he died, my father was, like many people shortly before they die, seeing a lot of doctors. There was the cardiologist, and the pulmonary specialist, and the urologist, and the gal doctor…

I kept on reminding him that, first, he meant “woman”, not “girl”, and second, why was he seeing a gynecologist?

(IIRC, her actual specialty was oncology)

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7539 "2023-06-01T02:08:09Z")

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I wish someone could come up with a set of gender-neutral singular pronouns. I know it marks me as a hopeless troll, but after a degree in English literature and a lifetime of reading I simply cannot bring myself to use “them” “they” “their” &c to refer to a single person. It’s like fingernails on a blackboard.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7540 "2023-06-01T02:50:01Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Some days, okay, **most** days, I just wish we used gender-neutral pronouns. Always. Period. Just save everyone the headache. It’s more efficient and easier. If you want to use a generic descriptor, use one that’s _really_ generic.

If gender-neutral pronouns were the norm, and some conservatives said their preferred pronouns were she/her or he/him, would you respect their choices?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7541 "2023-06-01T02:52:49Z")

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Checkmate, libs!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7542 "2023-06-01T03:03:09Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> I simply cannot bring myself to use “them” “they” “their” &c to refer to a single person. It’s like fingernails on a blackboard.

Having grown up in the South, I have the same reaction to hearing _you_ to refer to more than one person.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7543 "2023-06-01T03:09:24Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> literature and a lifetime of reading I simply cannot bring myself to use “them” “they” “their” &c to refer to a single person. It’s like fingernails on a blackboard.

This, this. I know descriptive and not prescriptive. It still just grates. 🫢

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7544 "2023-06-01T03:10:47Z")

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Are you speaking of: “How are you _guys_”?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7545 "2023-06-01T03:39:30Z")

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South, as in Dixie, not Philly. 😉

I really have to force myself to say “you” instead of “y’all” while I’m teaching.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7546 "2023-06-01T03:45:04Z")

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I’m from Michigan and we say, “You guys.” It bugs my sister, though I don’t know why she grew up here right along with me.  
Oh, and definitely a different accent than Philly.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7547 "2023-06-01T03:48:46Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> I don’t know why she grew up here right along with me.

My best guess is because ~~y’all~~ you guys are siblings. 😃 Yes, I know what you meant, even with the missing punctuation!

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7548 "2023-06-01T04:00:04Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> If gender-neutral pronouns were the norm, and some conservatives said their preferred pronouns were she/her or he/him, would you respect their choices?

The thing is, I would, as I suspect most liberals would - because we respect other people’s boundaries.

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**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7549 "2023-06-01T04:54:19Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> > [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> > literature and a lifetime of reading I simply cannot bring myself to use “them” “they” “their” &c to refer to a single person. It’s like fingernails on a blackboard.
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> This, this. I know descriptive and not prescriptive. It still just grates. 🫢

Oh yeah. I have to look what I am typing so hard to do things right nowadays. Calling someone “they” seems so dismissive…but if that is what they want, I will do my best to treat them respectfully.

I’m old. Hopefully it will come easier to younger people.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2023, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7550 "2023-06-01T06:31:00Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> If gender-neutral pronouns were the norm, and some conservatives said their preferred pronouns were she/her or he/him, would you respect their choices?

I have trouble respecting conservative choices, especially over the last handful of years.

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