# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7771 "2023-06-22T19:17:50Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Which they are doing, of course; as well as trying to “own” their own children, which they probably think is the right and proper way to parent them.

Which would be fine, I suppose, except they’re trying to ‘own’ other people’s children as well by keeping ‘smut’ out of everyone’s reach.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2023, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7772 "2023-06-22T22:20:29Z")

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I think there’s a limit to how much one owns one’s own children, as well. Parents/guardians are certainly in control of a lot of things about them, and should be; but children don’t belong to parents like shoes do, or even like dogs do.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2023, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7773 "2023-06-23T16:07:08Z")

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Hopefully a career limiting manoever. Assuming the airline takes it seriously. Pretty scary, I’m sure.

> **[An airline worker texted a passenger as she waited to board her flight after...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/airline-worker-texted-passenger-she-143122763.html)**
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> Hannah Smethurst was worried about her safety when an airline worker sent WhatsApp messages as she was traveling back from Abu Dhabi to Manchester.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2023, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7774 "2023-06-24T02:23:50Z")

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One of the responses I saw on Twitter to that bit of new is:

“_Moms for Liberty_” is _Klanned Karenhood._

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7775 "2023-06-25T21:01:36Z")

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Geography-challenged woman murders her Uber Driver

> **[Passenger shot and killed Uber driver she believed was taking her to Mexico,...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/passenger-shot-killed-uber-driver-believed-was-taking-mexico-police-sa-rcna90901)**
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> Phoebe Copas, 48, was charged with murder Wednesday after the driver, Daniel Piedra, 52, was taken off life support.

> Detectives believe Copas was in El Paso to visit her boyfriend, according to a complaint affidavit obtained by KTSM. She was in the backseat of the Uber en route to meet him at a casino when she saw roadway signs stating “Juarez, Mexico,” which is across the border from El Paso, according to the affidavit.
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> Believing she was being kidnapped and taken to Mexico, Copas shot the driver, causing the vehicle, a Nissan Maxima, to strike a highway barrier and come to a stop along U.S. 54 South, police said.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7776 "2023-06-25T21:23:48Z")

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It’s not her fault! Blame the school system! /s

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7777 "2023-06-25T22:44:57Z")

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“Karen’s got a gun…”

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2023, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7778 "2023-06-25T22:50:48Z")

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Her whole world’s come undone.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 10:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7779 "2023-06-28T10:09:04Z")

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[The Supreme Court has kept in place a court’s ruling that girls in a North Carolina school don’t have to wear skirts.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66025490)

I’m pitting the school and the schmucks who wasted money pushing this to SCOTUS.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7780 "2023-06-28T14:58:02Z")

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I just keep thinking of what the reaction would have been if I’d tried telling my fifth grade teacher, and my mother who backed her, that it was unconstitutional to make me wear a skirt to school!

Public school (USA meaning), 1960.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7781 "2023-06-28T15:48:44Z")

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I wonder what the scope of that ruling is. Does it prohibit all differences in dress code between male and female students? Does it distinguish between a dress code with rules, but which still leaves students some degree of choice, versus specific required uniforms? What about single-gender schools?

Although, the all-girls school I currently work with does allow khakis in lieu of skirts, and all of the co-ed schools I’ve worked at have the same code for all students (some kinds of dress code violations are more common for one gender or the other, of course, but a boy baring his midriff or a girl sagging her pants would both still be in violation).

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**Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7782 "2023-06-28T21:45:10Z")

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My wife went to a private christian elementary school and got in trouble for wearing gym shorts under her mandatory uniform skirt. From what I can tell, there’s two motivating factors for this sort of thing:

- Requiring girls to wear clothes that will render them indecent when doing “unladylike” things, forcing them to behave a certain way.
- School admins with schoolgirl fetishes.

Obviously, neither of these are acceptable. School kids should all be held to the same standard, and creeps should be held as far away from kids as possible.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7783 "2023-06-29T01:38:13Z")

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The case largy rested on whether that charter school is to be treated as a public school, only managed by a private entity, or is it to be treated as a private school, just paid for by the state. The lower courts said the first, which means they are a state actor and must provide equal protection of rights. SCOTUS declined to hear the school’s appeal w/o comment (which is often a way of saying why tf are you coming here for that?).

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7784 "2023-06-29T02:42:56Z")

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They probably thought the “wink, wink, nudge, nudge” bit would work since that seems to be most of the schtick behind public funding of charters in the first place.

How were they to know SCOTUS still wanted them to actually keep up appearances?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7785 "2023-06-29T05:07:44Z")

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And from the Great White North, key on [white](https://white), we have this bit of drama:

> At a walk-in clinic in Mississauga, Ontario, a Canadian woman whose son was suffering from chest pains demanded that he only be treated by a “white doctor,” and others witnessing the ordeal did not hesitate to point out her intolerable behavior.

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**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7786 "2023-06-29T05:21:16Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> I’m pitting the school and the schmucks who wasted money pushing this to SCOTUS.

It was a state court, not SCOTUS.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7787 "2023-06-29T11:29:23Z")

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“The US Supreme Court has left in place a lower court decision ruling that a North Carolina school cannot require its female students to wear skirts.\*\*

They tried to get it to SCOTUS and the Supreme Court refused to hear it was my understanding.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7788 "2023-06-29T11:33:33Z")

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Yep, it was raised to SCOTUS and SCOTUS answered “yeah, what _they_ said”.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7789 "2023-06-29T12:32:44Z")

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WTF. (I also can’t figure out what prompted Google to put this in my news feed.)

> **[3-year-old put in jail for potty-training trouble by Daytona Beach Shores...](https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/local/volusia/2023/06/28/child-handcuffed-locked-up-by-police-lieutenant-for-pooping-his-pants/70350225007/)**
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> A Daytona Beach Shores police lieutenant admitted putting a child in jail handcuffed as a potty training lesson last October.

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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2023, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/7790 "2023-06-29T13:28:38Z")

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The article is a bit hard to parse, but best I can tell nobody was put in jail, and nobody was arrested. He took his own child to the station as punishment and _told_ him he was being arrested.

Not great parenting, but objectively he just took his child to work.

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