# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8011 "2023-07-12T15:37:00Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Trump would be carried to the beach in a sedan chair.

‘Why would I take a car to the beach? I’d take a doombudgie!’ ~ TRDJT

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8012 "2023-07-12T15:39:59Z")

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I also was raped, and the police did little about it. If I could find the guy I’m not sure what I’d do but if someone like me chose to take personal vengeance I wouldn’t stand in their way.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8013 "2023-07-12T16:04:00Z")

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I can’t manage much opprobrium against a father who attacks his daughter’s rapist. But I can manage opprobrium against a society, and society’s systems like the court, that would allow him to. A vigilante response is understandable, but it’s no good in the long run, and that’s why we have laws.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8014 "2023-07-12T16:31:51Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> I think you can believe those things and still be happy when bad things happen to bad people.

Sorry to continue the hijack (though I think it’s allowed in The BBQ Pit), but this is something like how I feel about capital punishment.

I am opposed to capital punishment, but I confess there is some ambivalence. There are some people who ‘need killing’. But I can’t be opposed to capital punishment if I make exceptions. So even if someone ‘needs killing’, I oppose putting him or her to death. Keep the person in prison until he or she dies there. On the other hand if the person is killed, and while I won’t be _happy_ about it, I won’t shed any tears either.

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8015 "2023-07-12T19:04:02Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Whether an individual like this monstrous doctor deserves pain and death is irrelevant - society is made less just, and less safe, when rampant violence is allowed (much less encouraged) in prisons.

This. Some people in this thread seem to be suggesting that murder is OK as long as the victim is someone they want murdered. I assume there a few “nice” guys in prison. Who gets to decide which ones are OK to murder? What about the guy that knifed the doctor? Should he be punished, or does he get a pass because he stabbed the guy we don’t like? How can you punish a guy for committing a “good” murder.

As a society we have decided that murder is bad. We don’t get to qualify that position by adding “…except for people we really don’t like.”

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8016 "2023-07-12T20:31:06Z")

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If I learned that Trump got killed by a drunk driver and I wasn’t devastated by the news, it wouldn’t mean that I’m okay with drunk driving in some instances. Nobody here is endorsing violence in prisons or murder or any of that shit, this is a bullshit thread for blowing off steam and @Baker used it to blow off some steam. No need to make a federal case out of it.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8017 "2023-07-12T20:46:03Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> If I learned that Trump got killed by a drunk driver and I wasn’t devastated by the news, it wouldn’t mean that I’m okay with drunk driving in some instances.

I do think there’s a difference between that and cheering on the drunk driver. To me, that’s the line.

I can and would be pissed at the driver and want that person prosecuted while not being too mournful over the death of a person I find to have harmed and continues to harm the country.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8018 "2023-07-12T20:46:15Z")

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It seems that he didn’t move the chair in a robust enough way anyway. I’d quote, but I really don’t want to read that article again.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8019 "2023-07-12T20:55:42Z")

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Thank you **Spice\_Weasel** for your comments. I really appreciate how you worded things. I get so frustrated that the crooks seem to get more consideration than the victims.

And I know I kind of poked the bear there with **Monty** and feel bad about that, as they are one of my favorite posters.

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8020 "2023-07-12T21:36:51Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> If I learned that Trump got killed by a drunk driver and I wasn’t devastated by the news, it wouldn’t mean that I’m okay with drunk driving in some instances.

Sorry, but I do not see your example as the same as cheering for someone to be intentionally murdered.

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8021 "2023-07-12T21:37:43Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> No need to make a federal case out of it.

Really? That’s what you got from my comment, that I was making a federal case out of it? Seriously?

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**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8022 "2023-07-12T21:40:28Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> I get so frustrated that the crooks seem to get more consideration than the victims.

Where has anyone suggested this?

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**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8023 "2023-07-12T21:57:32Z")

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Well someone seemed to be feeling generous towards a stabby criminal

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8024 "2023-07-12T23:25:49Z")

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> [@Latimera](#):
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> Who gets to decide which ones are OK to murder?

I’ll do it.

None of them. It’s not okay to murder any of them.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8025 "2023-07-13T00:29:33Z")

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FWIW the [Nassar-case-specific Pit thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/go-to-hell-larry-nassar-michigan-state-university-and-the-us-olympic-gymnastics-program/807266/146) was revived today so additional and/or more focused venting can also happen there (never enough venues).

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8026 "2023-07-13T00:40:33Z")

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I was trying to be polite.

For me personally I think spending your life in prison is a more fitting punishment than death, so I tend to prefer life consequences to death ones.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8027 "2023-07-13T00:47:47Z")

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And [this is the stabby criminal’s greatest (attempted) hits:](https://www.thedailybeast.com/larry-nassar-shivved-in-prison-by-shane-mcmillan-over-gross-wimbledon-remark-report)

> A person familiar with the situation told The Daily Beast that the inmate accused of stabbing Nassar 10 times is Shane McMillan, who has a history of convictions for other prison attacks.

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(bolding mine)

> Court records show that McMillan was convicted of **assaulting a correctional officer at a Louisiana federal prison in 2006** and attempting to fatally stab another inmate at a Colorado supermax prison years later.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8028 "2023-07-13T00:55:23Z")

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OK if that is so then add to the stupid MFers the prison management who act like they believe this time around Mr. Stabby McStabface will have given up the shiv habit for real.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2023, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8029 "2023-07-13T19:11:37Z")

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Plastic surgeon who filmed herself performing surgeries on TikTok loses her medical license.

> **['Dr. Roxy', the plastic surgeon who livestreamed procedures on TikTok, banned...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/07/12/dr-roxy-medical-license-ohio-tiktok-surgeries-livestream/70408070007/)**
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> Dr. Katharine Roxanne Grawe, also known as "Dr. Roxy," had her medical license revoked by the medical board after she livestreamed procedures.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8030 "2023-07-14T00:58:10Z")

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[Rep. Eli Crane has a message for you “colored people”.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-congressman-declares-amendment-nothing-224356668.html)

> “My amendment has nothing to do with whether or not colored people, or Black people, or anybody can serve, okay?” said Crane. “It has nothing to do with the color of your skin, any of that stuff.”

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