# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 414
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8271 "2023-07-27T14:30:07Z")
Seed, hand tools, and good neighbors. Some of the neighbors have the ammunition. (But in reality: no matter how prepared you are, or how you’ve prepared: you’d also need a large share of luck.) ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8272 "2023-07-27T14:34:06Z")
the gods ate chocolate and pooped gold. in 2000 i did give out champagne with gold suspended in it, and champagne glasses as christmas gifts. never thought of bullets… ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8273 "2023-07-27T22:42:08Z")
> **[Family Who Died Trying to Live 'Off the Grid' Told Loved Ones About Their...](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/family-died-trying-live-off-212304060.html)** > > A family member of two sisters and a teen whose bodies were discovered in a remote Colorado campsite earlier this month said their deaths should serve as a warning: living in the wilderness without proper experience can be deadly > Before they left, Jara told _The Washington Post_ that the family “watched some YouTube videos” about “how to live off the grid” but had “no experience.” > > “YouTube and the internet is not enough,” Jara added while speaking with _The Los Angeles Times_. Not enough? _The did their research!_ /s ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8274 "2023-07-27T22:52:36Z")
I read that they were an hour by car from the town of Gunnison. And their car was right there. At some point they should have just called it quits. It’s really a sad story. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8275 "2023-07-27T22:58:06Z")
Yes, I think maybe with at least one of them mental health may have been more of a factor than stupidity. The other two ugh just got pulled in with her. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8276 "2023-07-27T23:13:16Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > Yes, I think maybe with at least one of them mental health may have been more of a factor than stupidity. Yes, paranoia seems likely. > Trevala Jara, Rebecca and Christine’s stepsister, told [_The Washington Post_](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/07/26/colorado-family-live-off-grid-dead/) that the decision to “live off the grid” was made as Rebecca’s fears about the world intensified. I just feel really bad about the teenager who was a victim of his mom’s illness. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8277 "2023-07-27T23:20:56Z")
[_The yeti kidnapped Blance … All the toilets froze … oh, Colorado’s callin’ me …_](https://youtu.be/Xorn1iRV0Ow) ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8278 "2023-07-28T14:04:56Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I read that they were an hour by car from the town of Gunnison. And their car was right there. At some point they should have just called it quits. It’s really a sad story. The story said it was a campground. If this was an actual National Forest campground I would say something else went wrong as well. Unless they sneaked in. But if their car was there. How would a ranger not be concerned? I never camped in campgrounds, but I believe there is a limit to how long you can stay. I suspect bad reporting, and perhaps they got buried in so much snow, the car was useless. An hour from Gunnison. One of the coldest places in Colorado. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8279 "2023-07-28T14:27:19Z")
Looks like they were found near the campground but not at the site established by the Forestry Service. The reports say a hiker found them about 1000ft away from the campsite, which was also well off the dirt service trails. That doesn’t sound like a lot but nearly a quarter mile out in the wild can be very isolated. Reports also say it’s not an official site but that people do often camp there, but I imagine that doesn’t happen much in the winter for very obvious reasons. And the car wasn’t at one of the (quasi) maintained campsites but near the head of a hiking trail. Combined with a lack of missing persons reports, that might mean a hiker got in trouble, but I’d search on or near the trails, then. Not off in the woods looking for a campsite. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8280 "2023-07-28T14:33:05Z")
Right. [“Rabbit Starvation”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_poisoning?wprov=sfti1) (also known as _protein poisoning_ and _fat starvation_, among other things) is one of the conditions believed to have played a big part in the death of [Christopher McCandless](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_McCandless?wprov=sfti1). ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8281 "2023-07-28T15:41:21Z")
I read that book, _Into the Wild_! Which is how I learned about it. It was a good book. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8282 "2023-07-28T16:28:29Z")
These people were relying on canned and packaged foods, so rabbit starvation was not the problem. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8283 "2023-07-28T16:35:54Z")
I used to do some serious camping, and even went on winter survival hikes where we’d built our own shelters out of sticks and snow, but I gave it up in middle age. Just now I realized that it may have been when the “Reward vs Possible Risks” part of my brain took over from the “That’d be so cool!” part. Stories like this just reinforce the fact that I can see plenty of nature on a nice walk (with a coffee place at the end of it), and be back in my own bed that night. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8284 "2023-07-29T12:07:13Z")
Done a bit of winter camping. Usually x-country ski in. Once, it turned into winter camping (unexpected storm) and we had driven in an FJ-40. A good 4x4. We left in the middle of the night for fear of getting trapped there. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8285 "2023-07-29T23:52:46Z")
There’s a lot of competition for the most dumb-assed conspiracy theory. This one probably makes the current top-ten list. A photograph of Obama playing golf with tape on his fingers (or, variously, a bandage) has surfaced, and it indicates nefarious doings. No, really. > So, Obama murdered his chef, as proved by the tape. If the photo _was_ actually taken at the time of the disappearance, I’d put two and two together and figure that without his chef, Obama was forced to slice onions for dinner and accidentally cut himself. But wouldn’t the Secret Service be in charge of that? Damn, now I’m going to worry about this the whole rest of the weekend. 😧 ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8286 "2023-07-30T00:36:44Z")
That’s not his ring. And, let’s be honest, I know lighting and cameras and screens could be affecting this, but I’m pretty sure that hand is attached to a white person. [![](https://www.dailyherald.com/storyimage/DA/20130725/business/707259937/AR/0/AR-707259937.jpg&updated=201307250735&MaxW=900&maxH=900&noborder&Q=80) ](https://www.dailyherald.com/storyimage/DA/20130725/business/707259937/AR/0/AR-707259937.jpg&updated=201307250735&MaxW=900&maxH=900&noborder&Q=80) . [![](https://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/image12.png) ](https://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/image12.png) . [![](https://e3.365dm.com/17/01/768x432/9b8fc7d720c16c86f87e5b2bedc6c81e69ffe4d934135590207399b3e0390a92_3868620.jpg) ](https://e3.365dm.com/17/01/768x432/9b8fc7d720c16c86f87e5b2bedc6c81e69ffe4d934135590207399b3e0390a92_3868620.jpg) Oddly enough, the first site I saw when I went looking for this was debunking a conspiracy theory that his ring has arabic on it. I don’t recall hearing that one, but it appears it was a thing a a while back. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8287 "2023-07-30T00:54:57Z")
[Gutfeld thinks it’s okay for Trump to destroy evidence.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/greg-gutfeld-suggests-trump-destroy-133302335.html) > “What are they about, surveillance cameras? What’s wrong with that?” he said. “What’s wrong with — like, are those yours? Why can’t you clear them? I don’t understand that.” The responses to that were pretty hilarious. Check this one quoted in the link: > “Greg doesn’t know how evidence works,” [one user wrote](https://twitter.com/bestfoodalex/status/1685037435124592640). “Like if they’re YOUR clothes with blood on them, and there’s an open investigation into your missing spouse, why can’t YOU throw YOUR own clothes away? What a witch hunt.” ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8288 "2023-07-30T04:04:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Gutfeld thinks You present that name as if you think we all watch Fox enough to know who it is, but the first thing I thought was, what’s a Gutfeld? For those who don’t know, Gutfeld is a program host on Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8289 "2023-07-30T04:32:43Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > and there’s an open investigation into your missing spouse, why can’t YOU throw YOUR own clothes away? What a witch hunt.” [Washing away evidence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3psiXm4TuNU&ab_channel=NinaBaklachyan) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2023, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8290 "2023-07-30T05:22:54Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > For those who don’t know, Gutfeld is a program host on Fox. I mostly remember him as the host of the show _Red Eye_. The bits of the show I caught were extremely boring. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=413) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=415)