# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8591 "2023-08-21T08:13:12Z")

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And West Virginia University [is canceling its graduate mathematics programs](https://www.yahoo.com/news/west-virginia-university-math-department-134900628.html). Good job! What are we up to now? Three, isn’t it? Kentucky, Florida, and West Virginia doing their utmost to ensure college diplomas from those states are of zero value.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8592 "2023-08-21T09:08:07Z")

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Math is woke?  
After reading the story: Professor Euler? They don’t know what they had.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8593 "2023-08-21T09:09:04Z")

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All knowledge and education is woke. Ignorance is bliss.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8594 "2023-08-21T11:31:52Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> After reading the story: Professor Euler? They don’t know what they had.

😜 From the link:

> [@](#):
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> “We’re horrified, we don’t know how we’ll cover classes at sizes that will allow students to be successful,” Cantor said, a member of the WVU math faculty. […]
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> The Times West Virginian is changing the names of WVU faculty in this article due to fear of retaliation. […]
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> According to Euler, another math professor […]
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> Fourier, another WVU math professor, finds any mention of a holistic process laughable. […]
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> Instead, Fourier said the school ignored all of that information, using arbitrary metrics to evaluate what was best for the school.
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> “All of this was overlooked in favor of one line of data,” he said. “From an excel spreadsheet, analyzed through a one size fits all process. There was no input from faculty, none that I’m aware of.”

I mean, it’s nice that whoever proposed the aliases is retaining their sense of humor, but this whole situation is definitely not funny.

This is one reason I’ve always felt it’s important for us STEM faculty to be good allies in pushing back against shortsighted corporate-management-style administrative cuts to humanities programs on the grounds that nobody needs anything but STEM these days. “First they came for the Classics professors, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Classics professor. Then they came for the Philosophy professors, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Philosophy professor…” And so on.

Make no mistake, shortsighted corporate-management-style administrators are not actually motivated by a coherent vision of more exclusive STEM focus in academia (even if that were such a good idea in its own right, which I don’t think it is). They’ll come for anybody they think looks vulnerable.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8595 "2023-08-21T12:17:07Z")

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[Leave the Mutter Museum alone!](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/13/science/mutter-medical-museum.html) It is not “woke.” It’s very cool and I need to visit again ASAP.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8596 "2023-08-21T12:54:03Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> All knowledge and education is woke. **Ignorance is bliss**.

No, ignorance is _strength_. And war is peace, and freedom is slavery.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8597 "2023-08-21T14:09:30Z")

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Somebody has been reading _1984_.

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**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8598 "2023-08-21T14:56:38Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Someone needs to learn when to use a and an.
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> > An man made comments about flag at Laura Ann Carlton’s store in Cedar Glen and killed her before being shot and killed by police
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> > A business owner in California was shot and killed after a dispute over a LGBTQ+ Pride flag displayed outside her store, authorities said.

My guess is that the original article, as written, had

> An asshole made comments about flag at Laura Ann Carlton’s store in Cedar Glen and killed her before being shot and killed by police

but an editor redlined asshole, and

> A business owner in California was shot and killed after a dispute over a Pride flag displayed outside her store, authorities said.

and an editor sent it back, wanting to know what kind of pride flag, since a lot of people are proud of Old Glory.

OK. Maybe not, but I like to think there are people involved.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8599 "2023-08-21T15:31:20Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> [California shop owner shot dead over LGBTQ+ Pride flag displayed at store | California | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/20/california-shop-owner-shot-dead-over-lgbtq-pride-flag)

This belongs in the Evil thread first, and maybe here second.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8600 "2023-08-21T15:55:04Z")

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Sheesh. I skimmed the article and didn’t spot Fourier.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8601 "2023-08-21T18:56:31Z")

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I can’t read the article. What’s wrong with the Mutter Museum?  
I went some years ago, won’t likely make it back again…

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8602 "2023-08-21T19:48:17Z")

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I’m sorry, I should have considered that. They’re rethinking about what they want to display and one of their consultants accused them of being elitist. There was a whole discussion of “cancel culture” aimed at the museum. I’ll try and find another article about it.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8603 "2023-08-21T20:37:54Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Somebody has been reading _1984_.

What are those…_numbers_ doing there? Is that maths?

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8604 "2023-08-21T20:44:22Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Somebody has been reading _1984_.

Ever since Newt Gingrich and the Contract ~~With~~ On America\* I’ve considered it less a work of fiction than a reference for understanding the GOP.

I think the only thing that would surprise Orwell is that it didn’t take WWIII to get us here. Yet.

\* Actually as far back as Nixon, if not before. But Newt really crystallized the movement for me.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8605 "2023-08-21T21:16:04Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I can’t read the article. What’s wrong with the Mutter Museum?  
> I went some years ago, won’t likely make it back again… -

They have an example of megacolon from a man who died with 40 lbs of poop inside.  
Trump hates competition.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8606 "2023-08-21T21:49:19Z")

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They got Elvis in there? Big score!

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2023, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8607 "2023-08-21T22:50:25Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> What are those…_numbers_ doing there?

_Arabic_ numbers!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8608 "2023-08-22T01:02:02Z")

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And now we have [Ramaswamy touting a brand-new version of 9/11 “truther”:](https://www.yahoo.com/news/vivek-ramaswamy-wants-know-many-184724406.html)

> - Vivek Ramaswamy wants to know how many ‘federal agents’ were on the planes that hit the Twin Towers: ‘I want the truth about 9/11’\*\*
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> - Vivek Ramaswamy is again raising questions about what happened on September 11, 2001.
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> - The GOP contender says it’s “legitimate” to ask “how many federal agents” were on the planes.

Evidently JAQing off is now passes for political discourse.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8609 "2023-08-22T01:11:13Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Evidently JAQing off is now passes for political discourse.

If it’s good enough for RFK Jr…

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8610 "2023-08-22T11:30:20Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Somebody has been reading _1984_.

They haven’t banned that book yet?

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