# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8611 "2023-08-22T14:56:13Z")

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I have always contended that Brave New World is far more relevant to the dangers that America faces. The manipulation and control in 1984 is overt and threatening. We have a history and culture that makes that sort of control difficult. In Brave New World however, “everybody is happy” and unable to even recognize the nightmare they live in. The dissenters aren’t even punished, really, they’re just sent to live with all the other interesting people.

They make a great pair though, and should both be required reading for every high school student.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8612 "2023-08-22T15:01:18Z")

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This is just STUPID on so many levels.

The passenger lists of the 9/11 planes are public and as far as I can tell, there were no federal agents aboard.

But if there were and _they_ are keeping it secret, what’s the theory? Did the government trick a bunch of agents they didn’t like into getting on the planes so they could kill them? Or did they volunteer for a suicide mission? Were they put on board to goad the hijackers……”Allah sucks, you pig fucker…whatcha gonna do, take down this plane? I triple hog dare you!

I remember when the JAQ crowd asked, after 9/11, why there were no prominent Republicans/conservatives on the planes…….they must’ve known. Then when you point out that there WAS a prominent Republican on the plane….Barbara Olsen, who was a conservative commentator married to Bush’s solicitor general…they switch to “I wonder what she did that made them want to kill her”.

This is like that, but way stupider. Are the candidates actually courting the conspiracy theory voting block these days?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8613 "2023-08-22T15:39:25Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I triple hog dare you!

Nice touch.

Conspiracy theories are often revealed to be spectacularly stupid when one stops to consider them. Which is why conspiracy theorists never do.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8614 "2023-08-22T15:44:45Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> Are the candidates actually courting the conspiracy theory voting block these days?

“These days?” Did they ever stop? That’s been a reliable well of talking points for them for awhile, I thought.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8615 "2023-08-22T21:55:34Z")

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Tickets to Fyre Fest 2 are now on sale, despite there being no lineup, no venue, no date, and the promoter is the same guy who did 4 years in prison because of the last one.

> **[Fyre Fest 2 tickets go on sale, despite no line-up or venue | Boing Boing](https://boingboing.net/2023/08/22/fyre-fest-2-tickets-go-on-sale-despite-no-line-up-or-venue.html)**
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> Felon Billy McFarland, who served four years in prison for cheating people out of millions of dollars in the fraudulent Fyre music festival in 2017, announced that tickets have gone on sale for Fyr…

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8616 "2023-08-22T23:16:38Z")

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> [@tofor](#):
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> In Brave New World however, “everybody is happy” and unable to even recognize the nightmare they live in. The dissenters aren’t even punished, really, they’re just sent to live with all the other interesting people.

I haven’t read this book, but I once became engaged in a Facebook argument with a former high school crush who turned into a colossal patriarchal religious “pastor” asshole, and he cited this book tirelessly in his crusade against trans people, abortion, and women forgoing child care to work outside of the home.

I’ve also seen conservatives reference 1984 copiously in their delusions about liberals taking away their right to oppress others and their right to be racist, sexist and bigoted without having someone pointing out that makes them an asshole.

I guess I’m not surprised that liberals do the same thing, but I think those books were meant to be allegories, not prophesy. In your case - who exactly in America is happy right now? Who is unable to recognize the nightmare they live in? It ain’t me.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8617 "2023-08-23T00:46:30Z")

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The Magas don’t realize what a dumpster fire their leader is advocating. They are “happy” with him. It doesn’t matter that he dragged the country through the mud and Biden inc. are trying to drag it out. The only reason they aren’t happy with the nightmare is that they think Biden and the “Demoncrats” created the nightmare.  
I think if trump gets power again and does all the things he wants (shudder) they’d be blissfully happy no matter what sort of hellscape he creates.

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**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8618 "2023-08-23T01:10:00Z")

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No demagogue can afford to let his followers be “blissfully happy.”

They _must_ be kept in a constant state of anger and fear of some enemy who can be blamed for everything that is keeping them from being blissfully happy. And who must be eliminated from society.

When the demagogue runs out of domestic enemies (trans people, gays, Jews, etc.), he must transfer the hatred to some external foe and start a war.

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**Author:** ![InternetLegend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/internetlegend/32/13154_2.png) [@InternetLegend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/InternetLegend)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8619 "2023-08-23T04:52:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Tickets to Fyre Fest 2 are now on sale, despite there being no lineup, no venue, no date, and the promoter is the same guy who did 4 years in prison because of the last one.

Whatever else you can say about, you can’t call him a quitter!

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8620 "2023-08-23T05:05:01Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> My theory is that France won the vowels and Poland won the consonants.

Which I’m sure is why [Henry III](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_III_of_France) just couldn’t bear to be king of both 🙂.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8621 "2023-08-23T10:36:39Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Tickets to Fyre Fest 2 are now on sale, despite there being no lineup, no venue, no date, and the promoter is the same guy who did 4 years in prison because of the last one.

The genesis of the idea:

> …it really all started during the seven-month stint in solitary confinement. I wrote out this 50-page plan of how it would take this overall interest and demand in Fyre…

Apparently he found prison so inspirational he wants to go back.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8622 "2023-08-23T11:13:20Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> The genesis of the idea:
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> > …it really all started during the seven-month stint in solitary confinement. I wrote out this 50-page plan of how it would take this overall interest and demand in Fyre…
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> Apparently he found prison so inspirational he wants to go back.

Does he call his plan “My Struggle”?

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**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8623 "2023-08-23T13:08:39Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> _Arabic_ numbers!

_Non-Natural_ Arabic numers!

we don’t need no brown woke math

also, we should get rid of odd numbers alltogether, because - well, those are odd … I NEVER LIKED THEM. EVEN NUMBERS WE NEED. THEY ARE BEAUTIFUL

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> > …it really all started during the seven-month stint in solitary confinement. I wrote out this 50-page plan of how it would take this overall interest and demand in Fyre…
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> Apparently he found prison so inspirational he wants to go back.

he may not be a quitter, but he def. is a slacker … 50 pages in 210+ days? … the “other guy” was way more prolific during his Festungshaft!!!

_(snipered by Steve\_Mc)_

cammon!!!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8624 "2023-08-23T13:30:02Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> I think if trump gets power again and does all the things he wants (shudder) they’d be blissfully happy no matter what sort of hellscape he creates.

[![](https://geeza.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/trump-is-fine.jpg) ](https://geeza.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/trump-is-fine.jpg)

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8625 "2023-08-23T14:07:59Z")

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I think they might continue to bitch about how awful every thing is, but blame Hilary & Joe even though Trump is the one in charge. “His precious tiny little hands have been tied by the evil ones.”

Really though, who knows, it’s stupid MFers we’re talking about.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8626 "2023-08-23T14:29:50Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> > [@Sylvanz](#):
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> > I think if trump gets power again and does all the things he wants (shudder) they’d be blissfully happy no matter what sort of hellscape he creates. -
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> [https://geeza.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/trump-is-fine.jpg](https://geeza.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/trump-is-fine.jpg)

I’ve never seen a dumpster that was that nice on the inside.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2023, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8627 "2023-08-23T19:47:57Z")

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> **[North Carolina woman arrested after allegedly faking her own murder, police say](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/north-carolina-woman-arrested-allegedly-faking-murder-police-say-rcna101356)**
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> Margaret Frances Elizabeth Sweeney allegedly “made anonymous third-party false reports” to a friend and the Department of Social Services claiming she had been murdered.

> [Police chief] Holland added that Sweeney was found at a local park and said that “she does not have a consistent place of residence.”

Mentally ill?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2023, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8628 "2023-08-24T00:19:56Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> Mentally ill?

Yes, paranoia is a very common symptom of some kinds of mental illness, and could definitely be an incentive to cause someone to fake their own death, if they think it might help keep “them” from coming after her.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8629 "2023-08-25T07:49:36Z")

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And we finally have [Librarygate](https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-school-board-censures-wing-041443881.html)!

> **Texas School Board Censures Right-Wing Member Caught in Library**
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> A far-right member of the school board in a Texas town, who has been on a crusade to ban books, was censured on Wednesday night for allegedly lying to gain access to a high school library.
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> The 5-2 vote to reprimand [Karen Lowery](https://www.thedailybeast.com/book-banning-fever-granbury-texas-school-trustee-karen-lowery-snuck-into-library) came after dozens of residents of Granbury—evenly divided between those who were appalled by her actions and those who defended her—spoke during a five-hour meeting about what’s being called Librarygate.

More fun _reading_ at the link.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8630 "2023-08-25T08:31:43Z")

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And of course the library vigilante is named Karen. I pity the thousands of women out there named Karen. There is nothing quite like being a living breathing stereotype. 🙄

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