# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 440
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8791 "2023-09-13T18:10:05Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > “Hostile workplace” is another similarity misunderstood term. You can work at a place that is driving you to mental illness because you are constantly berated by the boss and bullied by the other employees, but unless this is happening because you are a member of a protected class, you are not the victim of a hostile workplace, legally speaking. Wait a minute though. If a person was harassed, by… say their politics day after day, would that not make it a hostile workplace? ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8792 "2023-09-13T18:13:23Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Despite the devastating effects of my ADHD on my childhood, I was not diagnosed until age 34. I flew under the radar for many reasons, one of which was my excellent performance at school. And that was one of my mother’s favorite bullying tactics. You do so well in school, you have no behavioral problems there, surely, surely you are not paying attention on purpose. Surely you are careless and forgetful on purpose. Surely you are lazy, entitled, selfish, nauseating, and a failure who will never make it in life, and surely I’m going to kill you one day if you don’t get your shit together Oh, @Spice_Weasel, I’m so sorry your childhood was like that. Mine wasn’t anywhere as bad, because my mother had an instinctive understanding of mental issues, that she later refined when she became a clinical social worker: so my ADD was diagnosed and managed when I was a teenager. But I understand the struggles, and how easy it is to lose focus. If you’re like me, the diagnosis came as a huge relief - “You mean I’m not crazy, stupid, or lazy?”, as one book about ADD is titled. I feel ya, sister. > [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > The other night at bedtime he told my husband “Don’t forget to like and subscribe!” (He watches a lot of YouTube math videos while brushing his teeth.) Your husband should have replied, “No need, I’m the content creator.” ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8793 "2023-09-13T18:14:36Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I really wasn’t making any sort of comment regarding the validity of the woman’s condition. > > I was just pointing out that the legal definition of “reasonable accommodation” may not fit with the what seems to be the obvious and common sense meaning of the word. I understood that. I really didn’t mean to respond to you directly. Just trying to continue the conversation now that I am in a better place mentally. Also the information you provided was new to me! ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8794 "2023-09-13T19:41:46Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > … If you’re like me, the diagnosis came as a huge relief - “You mean I’m not crazy, stupid, or lazy?”, as one book about ADD is titled. … I heartily second this book. Since ADD/ADHD hadn’t been “invented” when I was young, I had all three pejoratives thrown at me on a regular basis; and while the book is a little late to make a major difference in my life (I was diagnosed at 75), merely being able to start putting my past in perspective is a huge step forward. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8795 "2023-09-13T21:39:57Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Wait a minute though. If a person was harassed, by… say their politics day after day, would that not make it a hostile workplace? No. This is straight from the government: > **[Harassment](https://www.eeoc.gov/harassment)** > > Harassment > Harassment is unwelcome conduct that is based on race, color, religion, sex (including sexual orientation, gender identity, or pregnancy), national origin, older age (beginning at age 40), disability, or genetic information (including family medical history). Your political views are not a protected class. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8796 "2023-09-13T23:29:00Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Your political views are not a protected class. What if a manager put up pride flags all over knowing that a subordinate was homophobic? Or pictures of steaks knowing a person was a vegetarian? Is that not harassment? I think that could be a battle in court. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8797 "2023-09-13T23:31:56Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > I had all three pejoratives thrown at me on a regular basis; and while the book is a little late to make a major difference in my life (I was diagnosed at 75), merely being able to start putting my past in perspective is a huge step forward. 75! Oof. Like trying to explain to my 85 year old grandfather that he’s autistic. “Your kid’s fine. I was the same way at that age.” Yeah… there’s a reason for that! But seriously, shortly after I was diagnosed I did a group coaching thing and the first chapter you work through is about self-concept. So many people with ADHD have been told by the world their entire lives that they aren’t good enough, and it takes a lot of work to unpack all that. ---
**Author:** ![Disinfectus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/disinfectus/32/11085_2.png) [@Disinfectus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disinfectus)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2023, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8798 "2023-09-13T23:41:07Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > What if a manager put up pride flags all over knowing that a subordinate was homophobic? “Harassment is unwelcome conduct that is based on race, color, religion, sex (including **sexual orientation** , gender identity, or pregnancy), national origin, older age (beginning at age 40), disability, or genetic information (including family medical history).” I think the sexual orientation thing goes both ways (no pun intended), although it’s just a guess on my part. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8799 "2023-09-14T00:00:00Z")
I don’t fully trust the police, and I don’t like the SovCits, so I’m not really sure who to root for here. But pulling out your gun on a traffic stop _is_ pretty stupid. [Farmington police shooting of suspected sovereign citizen Chase Allan ruled justified](https://www.sltrib.com/news/2023/09/13/farmington-police-shooting/) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8800 "2023-09-14T00:11:06Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > What if a manager put up pride flags all over knowing that a subordinate was homophobic? Or pictures of steaks knowing a person was a vegetarian? > > Is that not harassment? I think that could be a battle in court. Read what I wrote again, those aren’t protected classes. It’s not an umbrella term that covers everything. What is protected is codified. Now, it can change. In fact, it was only in 2020 that SCOTUS decided that sexual orientation and gender identity were included in the law. So yes, that can be a battle in court, though that court is the Supreme Court in this case. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8801 "2023-09-14T00:14:19Z")
> [@Disinfectus](#): > > I think the sexual orientation thing goes both ways (no pun intended), although it’s just a guess on my part. Ha. Good pun though. I’m a pretty basic married white guy. But I will not stand for ANY type of harassment to anyone. Sometimes all you have to do is stand up from your seat in a bar, and back up the staff. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8802 "2023-09-14T00:37:28Z")
Just applauding everyone who’s coping with ADD or “time blindness”. Many of our design students go to work for computer game companies. One of the largest ones has flexible hours (work any time, as long as you’re available for meetings/questions from noon to 3pm). The other big one in town has a more traditional 9-5 schedule. I’ve listened to students select an employer based on whether they can “cope with a schedule”. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8803 "2023-09-14T00:43:33Z")
I think people with ADHD can also make great entrepreneurs (not me, I so cannot) not the least because they can work on their own time. We also tend to be highly creative. You want a creative, innovative person who thinks outside the box, ADHD FTW. It’s not all bad. > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I don’t fully trust the police, and I don’t like the SovCits, so I’m not really sure who to root for here. But pulling out your gun on a traffic stop _is_ pretty stupid. I’m comfortable with calling that guy a stupid MFer. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8804 "2023-09-14T00:49:05Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > We also tend to be highly creative. You want a creative, innovative person who thinks outside the box, ADHD FTW. It’s not all bad. My daughter has ADHD and she’s an astonishingly good artist. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8805 "2023-09-14T00:53:30Z")
Read the article and yes, any sovcit who escalates the way this moron did, then goes for a gun, is totally in FAFO territory. The police have good reason to be wary of these nutcases. And I say that as a bleeding heart liberal who thinks there are way too many unjustified police shootings of civilians. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8806 "2023-09-14T01:10:03Z")
This. And “_suspected_ sovereign citizen Chase Allan”? Suspected my ass, the entire encounter is straight out of the SovCit script. > **[Police bodycam video shows fatal shooting of Chase Allan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPPJ96QFfX4%2F1)** > > Police publicly released this body camera footage from the five officers who fatally shot Chase Allan on March 1, 2023 near the Farmington, Utah, post office... ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8807 "2023-09-14T01:28:29Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > I don’t fully trust the police, and I don’t like the SovCits, so I’m not really sure who to root for here. The police are necessary, for better or worse. SovCits are not. The fewer, the better. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8808 "2023-09-14T01:59:58Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > [I blame Bob Dylan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhzEsb2tNbI). I blame Whitesnake [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JFS-91Qhwdw/hqdefault.jpg "Whitesnake - Lie Down 1979") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFS-91Qhwdw) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8809 "2023-09-14T02:03:59Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHH! > > Headline on [cnn.com](http://cnn.com) this morning: > " Law enforcement found Danelo Cavalcante **laying** down in tall grass and he appeared to be asleep on top of rifle" > > “LIE”! Not “LAY”! For Og’s sake, CNN, have you no proofreaders on staff? How the hell did an editor let this get by? > > Yes, yes, I know the language is morphing to make this a common usage, but I will NEVER accept it! To be fair, this was a fast-moving story this morning, as that’s when he was found. My guess is the article you saw was posted before anyone had time to properly copyedit it. In the old days when you read an article in a newspaper, it was about events from yesterday, or at least hours earlier, and so there was time for the story to make it’s way past copy editors and others. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8810 "2023-09-14T02:17:36Z")
That guy’s mother was a SovCit, too. > **[Young Man Shot by Utah Police Was Tied to ‘Sovereign’ Movement](https://www.thedailybeast.com/chase-allan-young-man-shot-by-utah-police-was-tied-to-sovereign-movement)** > > Chase Allan, 25, was killed during a traffic stop. He’d previously used a fringe theory to argue other traffic cases in court. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=439) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=441)