# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 447
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8931 "2023-09-30T04:55:06Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > But Colie still seemed genuinely distressed, Did he seem mentally sound? Stable? Sounds like he was erratic. ---
**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8932 "2023-09-30T04:55:11Z")
No thanks! I can only take so much of your assholery. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8933 "2023-09-30T04:55:42Z")
> [@saucywench](#): > > I can only take so much of your assholery. I thought I was a maroon? ---
**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8934 "2023-09-30T04:56:36Z")
That was not the pit. Get it? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8935 "2023-09-30T04:58:57Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I am in favor of people being able to defend themselves when they think they are in danger Perhaps you want to qualify this, because it’s clearly preposterous to apply a subjective “think” they are in danger standard. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8936 "2023-09-30T05:03:26Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I am in favor of people being able to defend themselves when they think they are in danger. Unfortunately your definition of “in danger” is as broad as the Grand Canyon. And that’s the problem with a heavily armed, unregulated society that ignores mental illness. ANYONE can feel “in danger” at ANY time for ANY reason, and can have lethal force available one finger away ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8937 "2023-09-30T05:33:11Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > I’m fairly sure the original framers of the Constitution (and BOR) intended this to be covered by the use of “well regulated” terminology. “Well…it is _kinda_ regulated.” ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8938 "2023-09-30T05:34:59Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > I am in favor of people being able to defend themselves when they think they are in danger. I am in favor of people actually _thinking_, period. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8939 "2023-09-30T05:35:08Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > “Well…it is _kinda_ regulated.” To be fair I guess there’s a certain amount of self-regulation, when unstable people shoot _themselves_. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8940 "2023-09-30T07:27:36Z")
Well regulated means regularly going to the well. You can have a gun if you stay hydrated, ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8941 "2023-09-30T07:32:51Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > > > Video has been released. (Non-graphic.) > > That would seem to imply you haven’t actually watched your own cited video as the reporter states “viewers might find this disturbing” and you see a person getting shot. > > I see no reason to continue this discussion as you’re not arguing in good faith. In fairness, it’s quite possible for something to be disturbing _without_ being graphic. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8942 "2023-09-30T07:33:44Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > In fairness, it’s quite possible for something to be disturbing _without_ being graphic. Right. I meant no gore, blood, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8943 "2023-09-30T12:23:10Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > In fairness, it’s quite possible for something to be disturbing _without_ being graphic. > Graphic violence generally consists of any clear and **uncensored depiction of various violent acts**. Commonly included depictions include [murder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder), **assault with a deadly weapon** , accidents which result in [death](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death) or **severe injury** … Even without seeing any blood/gore, you have to keep in mind, this wasn’t a TV show, those weren’t actors, you just watched a real person getting shot. I’d call that graphic. > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Yes, I watched the video I posted around 2 hours _after_ I made that comment. Are you suggesting that if you saw the video first, you wouldn’t have made that comment? My point was that you wrote that a person should be able to stop someone that’s attempting to harm them and then added the exception “assuming, of course, that he had no easy way of escaping”. Since he did have an easy way to escape, based on what you wrote, he should not have shot the pranker. Again, you are not arguing in good faith and, with that, I’m out. BTW, you can be pro-gun and still not think every shooting is justified. In fact, it’s assholes like the person in the video that give the pro-gun people a bad name. IMO, people like this (and school shooters) are the people the pro-gun crown should be going after. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8944 "2023-09-30T13:33:51Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > Dumbass prankster YouTuber gets shot by prankee, vows to continue pranking (multiple stupid MFers in this one): > Colie, who has been in custody since his April arrest, will remain incarcerated. > **[Jury finds delivery driver not guilty in Virginia shooting of YouTube prankster](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/30/delivery-driver-youtube-prankster-shooting-not-guilty)** > > Alan Colie acquitted of aggravated malicious wounding in shooting of Tanner Cook of ‘Classified Goons’ YouTube channel ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8945 "2023-09-30T13:40:18Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > > [@Superdude](#): > > > > In fairness, it’s quite possible for something to be disturbing _without_ being graphic. > > > Graphic violence generally consists of any clear and **uncensored depiction of various violent acts**. Commonly included depictions include [murder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder), **assault with a deadly weapon** , accidents which result in [death](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death) or **severe injury** … > > Even without seeing any blood/gore, you have to keep in mind, this wasn’t a TV show, those weren’t actors, you just watched a real person getting shot. I’d call that graphic. er. Okay, this is farther than I wanted to get into, and I have no dog in this fight, but I’m passing no judgement on the incident in question. I’m merely pointing out that it’s _possible_ to be disturbing without being graphic. I’m the wrong person to comment on disturbing/graphic, however. Too many years in the back of an ambulance has affected my judgment on what other people find to be too much. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8946 "2023-09-30T14:32:29Z")
I’m curious as to how the delivery company feels about one of their drivers using a firearm on the job. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8947 "2023-09-30T15:47:23Z")
They might not be real thrilled that he used it, but there’s likely not a whole lot they can do about their drivers [legally] carrying guns. IIRC, unless your business has a blanket ‘no weapons’ rule that applies to everyone on the property, employees can carry weapons (assuming it’s otherwise legal for them to do so). I believe, even if your business doesn’t allow guns, employees are still allowed to carry it to and from work and keep it properly/securely stored, on company property, while at work. Since these drivers aren’t on Uber’s (or whoever he was driving for) and I don’t believe they’re technically even employees (independent contractors/1099, right?), Uber likely doesn’t have a whole lot of say in how it’s drivers conduct themselves. OTOH, being independent contractors, I assume, means they also lose normal employee protections so the driver might not have any recourse if/when Uber ‘fires’ him. But I could be wrong, I’m going from memory here. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8948 "2023-09-30T15:54:05Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’m curious as to how the delivery company feels about one of their drivers using a firearm on the job The shooter doesn’t seem to be wearing any uniform or anything else that identifies him as an employee of a particular company. I’ll take a WAG and guess that he was a contractor working for DoorDash or a similar entity. If true, then the employer has no judgment on whether or not the employee is carrying a firearm, legally or illegally. I just read skimmed through the Independent Contractor Agreement found on the DoorDash website, and it says nothing regarding firearms, guns, or other weapons. Considering the fact that the delivery person may very well be transporting cash, it wouldn’t be a big surprise to find that some of the contractors would be carrying a firearm. ETA: partially ninja’ed by @Joey_P. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8949 "2023-09-30T15:58:29Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I’ll take a WAG and guess that he was a contractor working for DoorDash That’s [explicitly mentioned](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-m&sca_esv=569725060&sxsrf=AM9HkKkkiGuYFBfMPjnY5MC5naI1A0oo7g%3A1696089419318&q=Alan+Colie+%22doordash%22&oq=Alan+Colie+%22doordash%22&aqs=heirloom-srp) in most of the stories. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8950 "2023-09-30T16:16:03Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > That’s [explicitly mentioned](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-m&sca_esv=569725060&sxsrf=AM9HkKkkiGuYFBfMPjnY5MC5naI1A0oo7g%3A1696089419318&q=Alan+Colie+%22doordash%22&oq=Alan+Colie+%22doordash%22&aqs=heirloom-srp) in most of the stories. Thanks, I obviously missed that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=446) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=448)