# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 448
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8951 "2023-09-30T16:49:16Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > If true, then the employer has no judgment on whether or not the employee is carrying a firearm, legally or illegally. But can’t an employee be fired for any reason? Firearm owner is not a protected class. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8952 "2023-09-30T17:00:48Z")
As I understand it, employers can fire employees for any reason they want or no reason at all (as long as the reason isn’t membership in a protected class), but employers have to pay unemployment insurance, and firing people for bad or no reason makes that cost go up significantly, so most employers would rather not. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8953 "2023-09-30T17:30:19Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > But can’t an employee be fired for any reason? An independent contractor is not an employee, and that is explicitly stated in the DoorDash [agreement](https://help.doordash.com/legal/document?type=dx-ica®ion=US&locale=en-US). So a contractor cannot be ‘fired’, but the company can refuse to do further business with the contractor, at the discretion of the company. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8954 "2023-09-30T17:31:28Z")
Employers can fire anyone at anytime if it’s an “at will” situation. Not all states have that law and not every job allows that. There are jobs subject to contracts too. I’m in a union and I can’t be fired from my job arbitrarily due to our CBA (which is a kind of contract). ETA: Here’s a map with a bit of info: [![](https://www.paycor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Employment-at-Will-Laws-by-State-map.png) ](https://www.paycor.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Employment-at-Will-Laws-by-State-map.png) Montana is the only state that fully disallows at will employment (after a 6 month probation). As you can tell from the map it’s not consistent or simple. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8955 "2023-09-30T17:32:57Z")
I guess my point is, if Door Dash wants to kick him to the curb, they can do that. So their judgement does matter. I can’t imagine this guy keeps his job after shooting someone on the job. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8956 "2023-09-30T17:58:00Z")
Wow, that’s a poor choice of map coloring. Yellow, orange, and three different shades of gray? And the darkest shade of gray is the exact opposite of the second-darkest? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8957 "2023-09-30T18:01:25Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And the darkest shade of gray is the exact opposite of the second-darkest? Yeah, I read and read the key about 3 times because I couldn’t believe they had done that. I hope for their own sake that the graphic designer who’s responsible for that map doesn’t work in… um… Florida? Or is it Montana? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8958 "2023-09-30T18:08:05Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > So their judgement does matter. After the fact, yes. > [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > I can’t imagine this guy keeps his job after shooting someone on the job. Yeah, it’s highly doubtful that DoorDash will offer him any more opportunities. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8959 "2023-09-30T18:48:16Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Wow, that’s a poor choice of map coloring. It was a shitty choice of colors yes. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8960 "2023-09-30T20:34:19Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Yeah, it’s highly doubtful that DoorDash will offer him any more opportunities. Yeah, unless “This person makes orders complicated, take care of it” ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8961 "2023-09-30T23:54:09Z")
back on topic … the headline speaks for itself: # Brazilian priest died after tying himself to 1,000 balloons and being found in ocean months later > **[Brazilian priest died after tying himself to 1,000 balloons and being found...](https://www.unilad.com/community/brazilian-priest-1000-balloons-father-adelir-antonio-de-carli-321018-20230414)** > > His body was found near the city of Macae, Brazil. is it cynical to talk about having got a promotion? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8962 "2023-10-01T00:04:05Z")
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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8963 "2023-10-01T00:35:54Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > the headline speaks for itself Happened in 2008. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8964 "2023-10-01T04:29:08Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Happened in 2008. Precisely… Something that happened 15 years ago is hardly “news”. > **[Adelir Antônio de Carli](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelir_Ant%C3%B4nio_de_Carli)** > > Adelir Antônio de Carli (Pelotas, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil, February 8, 1967 – April 20, 2008), also known in Brazil as Padre Baloeiro or Padre do Balão ("Balloon Priest" in Portuguese), was a Brazilian Catholic priest, who died during an attempt at cluster ballooning on April 20, 2008. Carli, an experienced skydiver, undertook the exercise in order to raise money to fund a spiritual rest area for truck drivers in the Paraná port city of Paranaguá. > In 2006, de Carli denounced human rights viola... ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8965 "2023-10-01T04:33:21Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Precisely… Something that happened 15 years ago is hardly “news”. To be fair, it is a new article _about_ it for some reason. I was just tipped off because I remember it from when it happened. There was a long thread about it here: > **[It must have been an act of god](https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/04/21/it-must-have-been-an-act-of-go/)** > > I think this is my favorite newspaper headline yet: Priest attached to party balloons vanishes in Brazil. Now you know what to bring to the next party at your local church: a lawn chair, a bunch of… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8966 "2023-10-01T04:42:24Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > To be fair, it is a new article _about_ it for some reason. But since there is no new information on it, it isn’t news, by definition. Note that [UNILAD](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNILAD) is a “media company”, not exclusively a news site, so not every article on that site is news. Their menu has eight categories other than “news”, one of which is just called “weird”. Just because an article is on a website, that doesn’t make it news. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8967 "2023-10-01T04:59:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > But since there is no new information on it, it isn’t news, by definition. Old news about a priest’s ill health after a crash landing. ---
**Author:** ![Dandan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a87d85/32.png) [@Dandan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dandan)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8968 "2023-10-01T13:44:15Z")
> [@Spice\_Weasel](#): > > Firearm owner is not a protected class. Well, not yet. Dan ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8969 "2023-10-01T16:04:21Z")
Isn’t the firearm owner protected by the firearm? ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/8970 "2023-10-01T16:20:20Z")
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