# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 485
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9691 "2023-12-11T21:04:49Z")
I’m sure I’m not the only one here who would love to see you start an AMA thread. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9692 "2023-12-11T21:31:27Z")
Seconded! [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/d4/8d/18d48d9e77c87a375160538727c1973d.gif) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/d4/8d/18d48d9e77c87a375160538727c1973d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9693 "2023-12-12T13:50:48Z")
An open bar. A gun. What could go wrong? > **[Rowdy groomsman shoots wedding guest after being asked to leave, Virginia...](https://news.yahoo.com/rowdy-groomsman-shoots-wedding-guest-214723805.html)** > > The 22-year-old man was seen doing doughnuts in his car outside of the wedding reception before an altercation broke out, deputies said. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9694 "2023-12-12T13:58:30Z")
I like that the drunk idiot somehow shot his own foot on the run from the police. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2023, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9695 "2023-12-12T18:53:22Z")
> [@digs](#): > > I was smack in the middle of a herd of bison. Probably thirty or so. The bison on Catalina were brought over in the 20s for use in a silent movie, so they’ve been there a pretty long time. I don’t think they get a lot of contact with people, but they do get some. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2023, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9696 "2023-12-15T10:02:34Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > I like that the drunk idiot somehow shot his own foot on the run from the police one has to love the fact when figurative speech and literal speech come together … … in a single bodypart nontheless … involving the use of a percussive weapon! ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9697 "2023-12-16T02:32:59Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > The bison on Catalina were brought over in the 20s for use in a silent movie… …and that’s why they’re sepia-toned black & white. Wow! I’m so glad there’s proof that I wasn’t hallucinating… and it makes an even crazier story. (Anybody know what movie?) ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9698 "2023-12-16T05:30:06Z")
_The Vanishing American_, 1925. Based on a Zane Grey novel. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9699 "2023-12-16T09:12:31Z")
Is there a reason the bison are still there? They’re an invasive species. If someone moved them there a hundred years ago, can’t their descendants be moved back to the mainland, are at least sterilized so they don’t reproduce? Are they too numerous now to be removed, or is it just not worth the bother? ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9700 "2023-12-16T12:31:13Z")
honest Q: how does bison meat taste? … has anybody here on the board ever tried? a priori i’d venture the guess “veal-like” but what-do-I-know ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9701 "2023-12-16T12:51:54Z")
It’s a really lean red meat, much like beef. I like the taste. I’ve used it ground and made into burgers, just don’t cook too long, the meat will dry out without the fat that regular ground beef has. I’ve also grilled thin cuts to slice into fajitas. It was surprisingly tender, at least what I had. There’s a store here that sells farm raised bison in steaks, ground, and other cuts. Plus all the pieces parts, including tongue. I haven’t had that. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9702 "2023-12-16T13:02:45Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > It’s a really lean red meat, much like beef. What she said. Like beef, only better. You really have to pay attention while browning because there’s very little fat. Makes excellent burgers and chili. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9703 "2023-12-16T13:19:49Z")
I think of it as sort of “beef concentrate”. All the flavors that you think of as “beefy” are there, just more so. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9704 "2023-12-16T15:31:25Z")
Ted Turner owns a chain of restaurants, Ted’s Montana Grill, that serve bison burgers. As **Baker** , **Railer 13** , and **Chronos** said, it’s virtually indistinguishable from beef, when served on a bun. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9705 "2023-12-16T16:16:48Z")
Many years ago when visiting Denver I had meat allegedly from a cattle/bison hybrid. It was pretty much indistinguishable from beef, and lacking critical thinking in those days I didn’t wonder if such a hybrid were possible or whether I was being served regular beef at a premium price. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9706 "2023-12-16T16:40:34Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Is there a reason the bison are still there? They’re an invasive species. If someone moved them there a hundred years ago, can’t their descendants be moved back to the mainland, are at least sterilized so they don’t reproduce? Are they too numerous now to be removed, or is it just not worth the bother? For most of that time substantially the entire island was the private property of an individual tycoon. If he wanted his island to be a bison preserve (among other things), who are we to stop him? The tycoon’s estate has since deeded substantially the whole island to a nature conservancy. Who apparently see the bison as indigenous enough to leave in place. Again it’s their island, not the public’s. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9707 "2023-12-16T16:56:47Z")
Mandatory work dinners took me to our local Ted’s Montana Grill, where bison is served. For those unfamiliar with it, they offer samples as 2” diameter hamburger patties. I had been on a mammal-free diet for years, so the rich, lean patty tasted like a fried blood clot. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9708 "2023-12-16T17:06:39Z")
At least in the USA you can buy (farmed) bison meat readily at higher end butcher shops and grocery stores. I’ve certainly eaten it at restaurants. As said by others, from a culinary perspective it’s lean and super-beef-flavored. The extreme leanness makes it less than ideal as a grilled steak for most folks; a bit stiff to chew. But if you like steaks that taste lots and put up a good fight in the cutting and chewing, it’s yummy when cooked rare to medium rare. Bison burgers, often blended with beef fat and maybe even beef flesh, is a common and more accessible way to serve it. This is another: > **[Beefalo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beefalo)** > > Beefalo constitute a hybrid offspring of domestic cattle (Bos taurus), usually a male in managed breeding programs, and the American bison (Bison bison), usually a female in managed breeding programs. The breed was created to combine the characteristics of both animals for beef production. > Beefalo are primarily cattle in genetics and appearance, with the breed association defining a full Beefalo as one with three-eighths (37.5%) bison genetics, while animals with higher percentages of bison gene... ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9709 "2023-12-16T17:20:00Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > how does bison meat taste? … has anybody here on the board ever tried? a priori i’d venture the guess “veal-like” but what-do-I-know It has very good flavor – I wouldn’t say “veal-like” at all; it’s richer than beef, while veal’s more bland than older beef. Bison is, however, likely to be extremely tough, and needs to be cooked by somebody who knows how, if the cut’s anything other than ground meat or sausage. – hmm, I see that @Baker disagrees with that; but I suspect the trick was in very thin cuts, and probably in the length of time grilling. > [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Many years ago when visiting Denver I had meat allegedly from a cattle/bison hybrid. It was pretty much indistinguishable from beef, and lacking critical thinking in those days I didn’t wonder if such a hybrid were possible or whether I was being served regular beef at a premium price. I used to get quarters of beef from a neighbor, and one year she had a beefalo cross, 1/4 buffalo IIRC, though maybe the three-eighths in LSL’s link. Best meat I ever had. And yes, such hybrids are definitely possible. (As I see @LSLGuy posted.) Some farmers raise herds of them – leaner and more flavorful meat than straight beef, but much easier for the farmer to handle than straight bison. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9710 "2023-12-16T17:51:26Z")
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