# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 487
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9731 "2023-12-16T22:37:17Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > cattle in blizzard conditions will allow themselves to be pushed along with the wind until they come up against an obstacle, at which point they’ll stop and freeze; bison, on the other hand, will face the storm, hunker down, and wait it out. I’ve heard that for years, that bison walk into the storm and get through it more quickly, and cattle walk with the storm extending the time they’re exposed to it ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9732 "2023-12-16T22:48:43Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > > > Some farmers raise herds of them – leaner and more flavorful meat than straight beef, but much easier for the farmer to handle than straight bison. > > _shall refrain from gay bison and queer beef jokes_ Yikes! Didn’t think of that interpretation! Gay rams are certainly a thing that happens. So I suppose gay cattle and bison probably are too; but, again, I wasn’t thinking of that. ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9733 "2023-12-16T23:07:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > > [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > > > As **Baker** , **Railer 13** , and **Chronos** said, it’s virtually indistinguishable from beef, when served on a bun. > > That’s not what I said. The flavor is like beef, but it’s easily distinguishable by virtue of the flavor being stronger Sorry for misinterpreting you. The one time I had a bison burger, it tasted the same as beef. But that was only the once, and years ago, so my memory might not be trustworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2023, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9734 "2023-12-16T23:12:51Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Nope, despite their hulking appearance, [they’re actually intelligent.](https://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/news/how-care-american-bison) I once beat a bison two out of three games of chess. Explain that, then. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9735 "2023-12-17T00:31:29Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > I once beat a bison two out of three games of chess. Explain that, then. You’re even smarter. You should have a t-shirt made. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9736 "2023-12-17T00:35:59Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Stratocaster](#): > > > > I once beat a bison two out of three games of chess. Explain that, then. > > You’re even smarter. > > You should have a t-shirt made. - He’ll have to beat a pigeon first. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9737 "2023-12-17T01:24:37Z")
> [@Stratocaster](#): > > I once beat a bison two out of three games of chess. Explain that, then. They prolly would have done better if they didn’t keep knocking the chess pieces over with their clumsy hooves. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9738 "2023-12-17T01:30:18Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > For most of that time substantially the entire island was the private property of an individual tycoon. William Wrigley, whose chewing gum I don’t buy anymore, ever since he allowed lights to be installed at his eponymous baseball field. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9739 "2023-12-17T01:38:27Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > William Wrigley, whose chewing gum I don’t buy anymore, ever since he allowed lights to be installed at his eponymous baseball field. The Wrigley family has owned Catalina Island since 1919. William Wrigley died in 1932. Lights were installed in Wrigley Field in 1988. The owner of the Cubs at the time was the Chicago Tribune Corporation. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9740 "2023-12-17T01:42:26Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > William Wrigley died in 1932. > > Lights were installed in Wrigley Field in 1988. The owner of the Cubs at the time was the Chicago Tribune Corporation. My grudge against Wrigley stands. He passed along his genes to someone who would sell the team (and presumably the field) to someone who would DO such a thing. Also, I don’t like chewing gum that much. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9741 "2023-12-17T01:44:33Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > William Wrigley, whose chewing gum I don’t buy anymore, ever since he allowed lights to be installed at his eponymous baseball field. > [@Railer13](#): > > Lights were installed in Wrigley Field in 1988. The owner of the Cubs at the time was the Chicago Tribune Corporation. Retractable lights were _supposed_ to be installed for the '42 season. P.K. Wrigley had the equipment ready to be installed but donated it to the war effort. [cite](https://chicagology.com/baseball/wrigleylights/) ---
**Author:** ![Civil\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d78d45/32.png) [@Civil\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Civil_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9742 "2023-12-17T03:16:37Z")
Many years ago, but there’s a small-aircraft landing strip on the island, and it’s got a snack bar, and it serves (served?) bison burgers. Decent enough, as I barely recall.Snark/ Why no, I’ve got no idea where they get the meat from /snark. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9743 "2023-12-17T05:19:32Z")
I hesitate to poke the bear, but what is the issue with lights at Wrigley Field? Are you opposed to night games in particular? My husband is a life long Tigers fan; we named one of our sons Kaline. I don’t think he had an issue with lights at Tiger Stadium or Comerica Park. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9744 "2023-12-17T05:27:32Z")
Wrigley Field was the last ballpark to install lights, and held out for years after night games were common everywhere else. The first night games were in 1988. I didn’t realize it was still a sore point for fans. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9745 "2023-12-17T06:04:28Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > I hesitate to poke the bear, but what is the issue with lights at Wrigley Field? Are you opposed to night games in particular? My husband is a life long Tigers fan; we named one of our sons Kaline. I don’t think he had an issue with lights at Tiger Stadium or Comerica Park. TRADITION! Lower case letters as required. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9746 "2023-12-17T06:41:11Z")
> [@Bill\_Door](#): > > I’ve heard that for years, that bison walk into the storm and get through it more quickly, and cattle walk with the storm extending the time they’re exposed to it I’m thinking the speed a cow _or_ buffalo would make into or against the wind would be pretty small compared to the speed of the front’s passing. ---
**Author:** ![FluffyBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecb155/32.png) [@FluffyBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FluffyBob)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9747 "2023-12-17T16:21:09Z")
Yeah, as a Canadian neither the blizzard or storm storry makes any sense to me. You don’t walk out of a blizzard. I do know that ranchers will put up wind breaks for the cattle for certain situations, but that isn’t an option for large herds / ranges. I assume cattle find bush or other natural protection if they need. I have been told that Bison are hard to manage and don’t have a lot of respect for fences; beefalo have some domestic behavior. We did raise Angus bulls one year (instead of steers). Those fuckers would just push through barbed wire if they smelt cows in heat. They are half the size of bison. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9748 "2023-12-17T16:29:24Z")
Also, herd animals – cattle, horses, bison – will huddle together in a storm, sharing body heat, generally with butts to the wind, with their tails (for horses) protecting their underparts. They all grow thick winter coats that trap air in tiny pockets to insulate them like a down-filled comforter. When snow accumulates on their backs, it actually acts as further insulation. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2023, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9749 "2023-12-17T20:00:51Z")
> [@FluffyBob](#): > > Yeah, as a Canadian neither the blizzard or storm storry makes any sense to me. You don’t walk out of a blizzard. > > I do know that ranchers will put up wind breaks for the cattle for certain situations, but that isn’t an option for large herds / ranges. I assume cattle find bush or other natural protection if they need. What might make some sense would be if the cattle walk downwind, and wind up stuck on the upwind side of the next windbreak, fully exposed to the wind; while the bison walk upwind until they find a windbreak, which they’d then be on the protected downwind side of. I have no idea whether that’s what happens, though. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2023, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/9750 "2023-12-18T00:41:05Z")
My impression is that a bison will stay where it is and put its head down, so that the brunt of the weather is taken on its hump, which is _extremely_ well-insulated. But I’m basing that on a conversation which took place decades ago, so don’t accept it as gospel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=486) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945.md?page=488)