# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2021, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1088 "2021-08-26T15:44:16Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Additionally, some dogs (Collies notoriously) with a mutation in the MDR-1 gene lack a protein that allows certain drugs such as Ivermectin to be flushed from the brain. Is there a similar gene mutation in people?

If there was a mutation in people that causes certain things to be flushed from the brain, that would go a long way toward explaining all this nonsense.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1089 "2021-08-27T04:33:07Z")

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Who was it said “Ivermectin is like Tide Pods for Republicans” ?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1090 "2021-08-27T20:10:24Z")

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Irony is a cruel bitch!

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/its-not-looking-in-our-favor-man-who-organized-anti-mask-freedom-rally-now-on-a-ventilator-after-catching-covid/ar-AANOPmv?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/its-not-looking-in-our-favor-man-who-organized-anti-mask-freedom-rally-now-on-a-ventilator-after-catching-covid/ar-AANOPmv?li=BBnb7Kz)

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1091 "2021-08-27T21:02:22Z")

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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/the-gold-medal-winner-of-the-olympic-marathon-responds-to-critics-who-say-nike-shoes-give-him-an-unfair-advantage/ar-AANMx4A?li=BBnb7Kz](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/the-gold-medal-winner-of-the-olympic-marathon-responds-to-critics-who-say-nike-shoes-give-him-an-unfair-advantage/ar-AANMx4A?li=BBnb7Kz)

Do I need to spell this out?

OK, his shoes cannot possibly be an unfair advantage. Why\> Because…_those shoes are available to everyone_.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1092 "2021-08-27T21:36:31Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> OK, his shoes cannot possibly be an unfair advantage. Why\> Because… _those shoes are available to everyone_ .

“Critics claim that man in running shoes has unfair advantage over barefoot competitors in marathon.”

It’s not like he was doping. Isn’t having the proper equipment part of the competition? Does the man in a 3 piece suit gripe that he’s struggling against someone in shorts and a t-shirt?

I can get those shoes for under $300 on Amazon. They aren’t cheap but if I was a serious competitor that seems like a relatively small investment, especially if I’m looking to break the world record. This seems like a non-story that people are trying to make into a story.

I also think the story overall is bullshit. Because if you actually read it, it’s clearly not just the shoes.

> Kipchoge finished in one hour, 59 minutes, and 40 seconds. But that, he said, was because of the specialized conditions.
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> “Without all the things surrounding me, I don’t think I would’ve run fast,” he said.
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> World Athletics, which governs most international track and field events, did not deem the feat a world record because of the advantages that set Kipchoge’s run apart from traditional marathons.

Note that the author of the article does not say what the “advantages” are aside from the shoes. I guarantee you that there is more going on than the clickbait headline.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1093 "2021-08-27T21:51:45Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Note that the author of the article does not say what the “advantages” are aside from the shoes. I guarantee you that there is more going on than the clickbait headline.

The sub 2-hour thing was a solo run for him. He had several pacers running ahead to draft and keep him on time.

Nothing like race conditions. Don’t get me wrong - still an impressive feat - but just not something we’re likely to see regularly occur in competitions.

The shoes are a non-issue as far as I’m concerned. Regular sneakers are better than the shoes they had a century ago (Olympic/world record time over 2.5 hours).

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1094 "2021-08-27T21:52:45Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Note that the author of the article does not say what the “advantages” are aside from the shoes. I guarantee you that there is more going on than the clickbait headline.

I remember Kipchoge’s sub-two-hour marathon. Other runners would come on to the course, let him draft behind them for a while, and then drop out and be replaced. So it was a hell of an achievement, but not the same conditions as a real marathon.

And maybe those shoes are available to anyone who wants them (and can afford them) now, but I think when they were originally developed Nike only gave them to athletes they sponsored.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1095 "2021-08-27T21:59:49Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> The sub 2-hour thing was a solo run for him. He had several pacers running ahead to draft and keep him on time.
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> Nothing like race conditions. Don’t get me wrong - still an impressive feat - but just not something we’re likely to see regularly occur in competitions.

That makes perfect sense and would be something you’d think a journalist would put in an article.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1096 "2021-08-27T22:00:13Z")

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Which shoes were the other runners at the Tokyo Olympics marathon wearing? Were some or many wearing the same type? If so, they had an equal advantage.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1097 "2021-08-27T22:06:29Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Other runners would come on to the course, let him draft behind them for a while, and then drop out and be replaced.

??? That’s allowed at the freaking Olympics? My Wife has done IronMen and some just Marathons in the US. That would never, never be allowed at these races.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2021, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1098 "2021-08-27T22:07:43Z")

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No, just for the special sub 2-hour run in Austria. The Marathon at the Tokyo Olympics was a normal race.

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**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1099 "2021-08-28T18:05:25Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> The sub 2-hour thing was a solo run for him. He had several pacers running ahead to draft and keep him on time.

> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> remember Kipchoge’s sub-two-hour marathon. Other runners would come on to the course, let him draft behind them for a while, and then drop out and be replaced. So it was a hell of an achievement, but not the same conditions as a real marathon.

That sounds a lot like bicycle racing for sprint finished, with a leadout train of a team pulling the sprinter along until the last couple hundred meters.

But that doesn’t sound like typical foot race behavior, as was noted already.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1100 "2021-08-28T18:25:08Z")

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> [@omenran](#):
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> That sounds a lot like bicycle racing for sprint finished, with a leadout train of a team pulling the sprinter along until the last couple hundred meters.

It wasn’t even that, as the pacers came on and off the course as needed. It’s not like a bike race where the team is together for the whole race, with the various pacers and lead outs being discarded like spent rocket boosters as they are used up.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1101 "2021-08-28T19:02:49Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> > [@omenran](#):
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> > That sounds a lot like bicycle racing for sprint finished, with a leadout train of a team pulling the sprinter along until the last couple hundred meters.
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> It wasn’t even that, as the pacers came on and off the course as needed. It’s not like a bike race where the team is together for the whole race, with the various pacers and lead outs being discarded like spent rocket boosters as they are used up. -

There was also the Tesla with a giant pace clock/windscreen and a projected laser line that provided inhumanly precise pacing assistance.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1102 "2021-08-28T19:19:15Z")

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> [@omenran](#):
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> That sounds a lot like bicycle racing for sprint finished, with a leadout train of a team pulling the sprinter along until the last couple hundred meters.

In a bicycle race, the leadout riders have completed the whole course along with the sprinter they are working for. Kipchoge’s run was on a closed road in Vienna, with turnarounds at each end, so each lap of the course was about five miles. The pacemakers would wait at the side of the road for Kipchoge’s arrival. The new pacemakers would start running in a wedge formation in front of Kipchoge, and the old pacemakers would stop and rest while Kipchoge ran another lap. Then they’d repeat the process with the rested runners swapping back in. Only Kipchoge completed the full distance.

Everything was done to make this attempt as fast as possible. The course was extremely flat, and water bottles were passed to Kipchoge by bicyclists. So it wasn’t true race conditions and not recognized as an official marathon record.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1103 "2021-08-30T18:31:40Z")

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A judge in Ohio has ordered a hospital to treat a covid patient with ivermectin. I hope the hospital is covered when the inevitable lawsuit comes down the line because he will die.

> **[Judge orders Cinci hospital to treat COVID-19 patient with Ivermectin,...](https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2021/08/30/judge-orders-cinci-hospital-to-treat-covid-19-patient-with-ivermectin-despite-cdc-warnings/)**
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> A Butler County judge ruled in favor of a woman last week who sought to force a hospital to administer Ivermectin — an animal dewormer that federal regulators have warned against using in COVID-19 patients — to her husband after several weeks in the...

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1104 "2021-08-30T18:57:16Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> A judge in Ohio has ordered a hospital to treat a covid patient with ivermectin.

Does Ivermectin have to be given orally?

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1105 "2021-08-30T19:03:02Z")

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Oh, and here’s the cherry on top:

> [@](#):
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> It’s unclear why the hospital didn’t mount any defense under a new law passed in the [state budget this summer](https://search-prod.lis.state.oh.us/solarapi/v1/general_assembly_134/bills/hb110/EN/07/hb110_07_EN?format=pdf) that grants health care providers the “freedom to decline to perform” any service which violates their “conscience,” as informed by moral, ethical or religious beliefs.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1106 "2021-08-30T19:34:49Z")

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Milo Y allegedly gave it to himself via an injection. And then got sick.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1107 "2021-08-30T19:37:42Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Milo Y allegedly gave it to himself via an injection.

That wasn’t what I had in mind.

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