# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1530 "2021-10-15T18:43:51Z")

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There’s this too:

> **[Opinion | Guess what? Halloween is more Christian than Pagan](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/10/28/guess-what-halloween-is-more-christian-than-pagan/)**
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> Its roots are in a medieval Christian past.

And:

> **[BBC - Religions - Christianity: All Hallows' Eve](https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/holydays/halloween_1.shtml)**
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> All Hallows' Eve falls on 31 October each year, and is the day before All Hallows Day, also known as All Saints' Day.

Basically one theory (there are conflicting ones) is that Halloween itself was a Christian invention meant to coopt the already-existing Samhain celebration. In that sense, it was Christian. But we’re talking about stuff that happened well over a thousand years ago so it’s hard to be sure how much of the holiday was Christian, how much was Pagan, and how much was just secular folk customs.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1531 "2021-10-15T18:50:33Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> combining Halloween and Thanksgiving into “Thankstweenie” – and having everyone dress up as pink flamingos.

I could get behind this! As long as no one plays the movie “Pink Flamingos”. What a pile of crap (literally!)

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1532 "2021-10-15T19:39:28Z")

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You’re half right. They are discarded clothes, but it isn’t quite as desperate as picking them out of landfills. For the most part they are clothes that are donated to thrift stores in the US, but aren’t good enough condition to be resold here, and so are smuggled south across the border to be resold there.

> **[Here’s What Really Happens to Your Used Clothes](https://www.vox.com/2018/3/13/17082288/used-clothing-mexico-goodwill)**
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> How what you donate in the United States gets smuggled into Mexico.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1533 "2021-10-15T21:32:34Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Conservative Christians want to stop people celebrating Halloween, but instead to replace it with a Christian celebration - Jesusween.

I would think it’d be Good Friday for that.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1534 "2021-10-15T21:41:45Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Honestly, the same could be said of Christmas, at least as it’s observed by most people in the US. There’s very little Christianity in it.

There is very little Christianity in Christianity these days.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1535 "2021-10-15T21:44:35Z")

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As Gandhi is supposed to have said, “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1536 "2021-10-16T01:06:08Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> You’re half right. They are discarded clothes, but it isn’t quite as desperate as picking them out of landfills. For the most part they are clothes that are donated to thrift stores in the US, but aren’t good enough condition to be resold here

Thank you for this bit of ignorance fighting (even here in the Pit, where the fighting of ignorance isn’t particularly a thang 🙂 ). Now I wonder: What should we better-off Mericans think about this?

Are we (collective “we”) doing good by sending our un-sellable used clothing to dirt-poor people who can’t afford a pair of used shoelaces let alone shoes? (Have I used “let alone” properly there?) Or is this patronizing and insulting to the poorest people of Latin America? What does The Dope think?

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1537 "2021-10-16T01:21:02Z")

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I remember reading something once about all of the used clothing that ends up in Africa. The gist of the article was that it depresses the market for locally designed and produced clothing.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1538 "2021-10-16T01:26:23Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I remember reading something once about all of the used clothing that ends up in Africa. The gist of the article was that it depresses the market for locally designed and produced clothing. &nbsp;

The article that @Buck_Godot linked above says this also about the used clothing being smuggled into Mexico. That’s specifically why it’s illegal, and thus why it has to be smuggled in. But it’s less clear if this has anything to do with benefitting the poor people there. It was more to do with pressure from the Mexican textile industry.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1539 "2021-10-16T02:35:28Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Are we (collective “we”) doing good by sending our un-sellable used clothing to dirt-poor people who can’t afford a pair of used shoelaces

Maybe this deserves its own topic…  
But used clothing is a big problem, and not just in poor countries…

> **[What Really Happens to Unwanted Clothes?](https://www.greenamerica.org/unraveling-fashion-industry/what-really-happens-unwanted-clothes)**
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> When you donate clothes, they may not go where you think. Learn what really happens to your clothing castoffs.

> Secondhand clothes that don’t sell in the US or go into textile recycling are often exported. Roughly 700,000 tons of used clothing gets sent to other countries annually, reportedly creating a big market and contributing to job growth. But it’s highly contested whether the impacts of this trade on local economies yields beneficial or harmful results. The sheer volume of exported clothing has suppressed local clothing industries and developed an increased reliance on other countries. It’s estimated the cost of a secondhand garment is as low as five percent the cost of a new garment made in Kenya, meaning local industries are unable to compete with the influx of cheap, used clothing.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1540 "2021-10-16T04:49:10Z")

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All I know is, on our first trip to Japan, my kid and I decided to explore the alleyways near our hotel after midnight. It was so cool, so lit up it looked like Vegas, with dozens and dozens of hastily-assembled booths full of fun stuff.

A number of them were selling overruns of t-shirts with graphics like “Kalamazoo Reptile & Exotic Pet Expo, October 21-24, County Park Expo Center” or “David Henry Hickman High School, Columbia, Missouri, Home of the Hickman **Fightin’ Kewpie Dolls** ”.

Boring back home, but exotic there…

Oh, and some we really didn’t understand: “What happens if you eat letterbox hair?” [Oh, I found that one.](https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/Letterbox-pizza-by-4naans/58454553.1YYVU)

And the Kewpie Doll mascot is real, too…

> **[100 YEARS OF KEWPIES: Hickman High School embraces unusual mascot](https://www.columbiamissourian.com/sports/100-years-of-kewpies-hickman-high-school-embraces-unusual-mascot/article_d87e14f6-b0a3-547a-ac5c-53a2b9739b1a.html)**
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> COLUMBIA — The naked baby wears a football uniform when it cheers from field level during games. Streaking is not permitted at Hickman High School. So the school's mascot, an

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1541 "2021-10-16T16:06:24Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I remember reading something once about all of the used clothing that ends up in Africa.

Also those _[Team] World Champions_ T-shirts that were produced ahead of time for instant sale at game’s end, but for the wrong team.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1542 "2021-10-18T14:46:44Z")

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Fucking Florida:

“A private school in Miami, Florida, is requiring students who get vaccinated to quarantine at home for 30 days after each dose.”

“Because of the potential impact on other students and our school community, vaccinated students will need to stay at home for 30 days post-vaccination for each dose and booster they receive and may return to school after 30 days as long as the student is healthy and symptom-free,” a letter sent out to parents of students at the Centner Academy says, according to local news outlet [WSVN](https://wsvn.com/news/local/miami-private-school-to-require-students-getting-covid-vaccine-to-stay-home-for-30-days-after-each-dose/)."

> **[A Florida school says vaccinated students must stay home for 30 days after...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-school-says-students-vaxxed-181722021.html)**
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> School officials said that the quarantine mandate exists because they believe vaccinated students can infect unvaccinated students. That's false.

OK, I seem to recall this school being in the news recently for some other idiotic fucking thing, but I can’t remember what that was.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1543 "2021-10-18T14:54:17Z")

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Yeah, that’s the school run by anti-vaxxers that didn’t want staff to get vaccinated.

> **[How a Miami School Became a Beacon for Anti-Vaxxers (Published 2021)](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/02/us/miami-centner-academy-coronavirus-vaccine.html)**
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> Centner Academy barred teachers newly vaccinated against the coronavirus from being near students. Some parents threatened to withdraw their children. Others clamored to enroll.

Brand new verse, same as the first

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1544 "2021-10-18T14:55:19Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> OK, I seem to recall this school being in the news recently for some other idiotic fucking thing, but I can’t remember what that was.

That would be this:

[https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article250961279.html](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/education/article250961279.html)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1545 "2021-10-18T14:58:33Z")

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I see. Same old song and dance.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1546 "2021-10-18T15:03:45Z")

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I don’t think we should mention this school without, again, posting this picture of its lovely founders:

[https://1648o73kablq2rveyn64glm1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/E0BB8upXMAEXGSE-283x300.jpeg](https://1648o73kablq2rveyn64glm1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/E0BB8upXMAEXGSE-283x300.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1547 "2021-10-18T15:35:42Z")

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Out of whose ass was “30 days” pulled?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1548 "2021-10-18T15:37:48Z")

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I’m guessing they asked themselves what was the longest period they could potentially get away with and settled on 30 days.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1549 "2021-10-18T15:54:41Z")

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Cue Humble Pie: 🎼 30 days from a hole.

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