# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1570 "2021-10-22T00:18:47Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> They weren’t part of just any advisory board, but her **Veterans Advisory Council**.

Ok, thanks, that wasn’t clear from the first coverage I initially saw. And their own collective letter of resignation does emphasize that they are veterans.

But still…it just seems odd to me. In their letter, they don’t protest any of Senator Sinema’s positions or policies with regard to veterans affairs or the military (in fact they praise her support of veterans). They protest her opposition to repeal of the filibuster, her lack of support of “the Biden agenda…employment, education, healthcare, and infrastructure”, her lack of support of drug price negotiation, and her refusal to vote to establish a commission to investigate the January 6 insurrection.

Which…ok, I more or less agree with them, and if they feel like they can’t in good conscience continue to serve on her advisory board, and want to resign in protest, more power to them. But I’m a veteran, and I don’t think that gives my views on any of those issues any particular significance, and I don’t think it should give them or their views any particular significance, either.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1571 "2021-10-22T00:32:01Z")

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I agree (mostly).  
The news media often (imo) latch onto some coincidental and irrelevant factoid about a story, but in this case the members emphasized that point themselves.  
Additionally: there’s a perception in the US that the military take their _duty to serve their country_ a little more seriously than you’re average citizen. So, if they feel they can no longer fulfill that duty, it must be something significant. It lends and air of importance to the resignation. That this is not some political stunt.  
I don’t know if veterans actually do feel that duty more than others. I suspect some do and some don’t like any other group.

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1572 "2021-10-22T00:33:24Z")

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You must have full confidence in the VA healthcare.

Even if they could benefit from money for “employment, education, healthcare, and infrastructure”, her lack of support of drug price negotiation, and her refusal to vote to establish a commission to investigate the January 6 insurrection.”.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1573 "2021-10-22T00:45:35Z")

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> [@mistymage](#):
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> You must have full confidence in the VA healthcare.

…  
…  
…  
What?

I don’t…what are you talking about? The advisors who quit didn’t even _allude_ to the VA or veterans’ healthcare - other than to praise Sen. Sinema for her past support for veterans. And, yeah, sure, the issues the advisors mention affect veterans, to the same extent they affect literally just about everyone else in the United States, but they just simply aren’t veterans issues per se.

Again,

> [@gdave](#):
>
> I more or less agree with them, and if they feel like they can’t in good conscience continue to serve on her advisory board, and want to resign in protest, more power to them. But I’m a veteran, and I don’t think that gives my views on any of those issues any particular significance, and I don’t think it should give them or their views any particular significance, either.

But, honestly, this is just such a non-issue to me, I kind of regret bringing it up now. If you really think it’s specifically noteworthy that five **veterans** resigned as volunteer advisors, as opposed to volunteer advisors who didn’t happen to have served in the military…ok, I guess. I don’t really get that, but…eh.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1574 "2021-10-22T05:09:01Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Also those _[Team] World Champions_ T-shirts that were produced ahead of time for instant sale at game’s end, but for the wrong team.

I think those are destroyed to prevent them being sold in the US as collectors items.

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**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1575 "2021-10-22T05:12:01Z")

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Wait, so all my Olympics 1980 USA gear is rare, as well as weird?

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1576 "2021-10-22T11:30:03Z")

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Nope.

> [@](#):
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> All that apparel and other merch is pre-printed with the team’s name and the year of the championship before the game has even begun. So the question is: What happens to all the losing team’s stuff?
> 
> The short and sweet answer is a lot of it is donated to charity. The NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL all partner with different organization so the merchandise can be reused by people in need.
> 
> The two charities that sports organizations have worked with most over the years include:
> 
> ```
> World Vision
> Good360
> 
> ```

[![](https://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/World-Vision-Organization.jpg?width=350) ](https://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/World-Vision-Organization.jpg?width=350)

.[https://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/blog/losing-team-championship-merchandise/](https://www.qualitylogoproducts.com/blog/losing-team-championship-merchandise/)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1577 "2021-10-22T13:58:13Z")

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My daughter once won some crappy stuffed mascot toy at a funfair game. It was for Charleston, SC IIRC. We live in London (England).

I can’t even remember what the mascot was but I think it was outdated merch, peddled off cheaply to be used as pointless prizes.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1578 "2021-10-22T14:06:44Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Huh. The mnemonic I use for trig functions is about Sally, Oscar, and erections.
> 
> No native-Americans involved.

Not with mine.

She\_\_\_\_\_\_Can’t\_\_\_\_\_\_Tell

Oscar\_\_\_\_ A\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_Of  
Has\_\_\_\_\_\_Heap\_\_\_\_\_\_Apples

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1579 "2021-10-22T14:37:26Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> But, honestly, this is just such a non-issue to me, I kind of regret bringing it up now. If you really think it’s specifically noteworthy that five **veterans** resigned as volunteer advisors, as opposed to volunteer advisors who didn’t happen to have served in the military…ok, I guess. I don’t really get that, but…eh.

It might be significant because the Military is _perceved_ as being conservative; the fact that her ENTIRE Military Advisory Board resigned shows that her actions (or inactions) are even too much for them.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1580 "2021-10-22T15:19:00Z")

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Which is surprising how? The conservative idea of compromise is, “_My_ way or I balk.”

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1581 "2021-10-22T18:13:04Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> Nope.
> 
> > [@](#):
> >
> > All that apparel and other merch is pre-printed with the team’s name and the year of the championship before the game has even begun. So the question is: What happens to all the losing team’s stuff?
> > 
> > > The short and sweet answer is a lot of it is donated to charity. The NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL all partner with different organization so the merchandise can be reused by people in need.
> > > 
> > > The two charities that sports organizations have worked with most over the years include:
> > > 
> > > ```auto
> > > World Vision
> > > 
> > > ```
> > 
> > Good360
> > 
> > > ```auto
> > > 
> > > ```

I did not know that. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Bonum\_Legatum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bonum_legatum/32/6183_2.png) [@Bonum\_Legatum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bonum_Legatum)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1582 "2021-10-22T18:33:29Z")

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> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#):
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> All that apparel and other merch is pre-printed with the team’s name and the year of the championship before the game has even begun. So the question is: What happens to all the losing team’s stuff?

In today’s atmosphere, I can imagine someone overprinting it with “They actually won. Demand a recount.” But some people wouldn’t see it as a joke.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1583 "2021-10-24T06:37:16Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> Yeah, but there was (and still is) a Christian component to Christmas, such that “put the Christ back in Christmas” is a defensible (if entirely unrealistic) slogan.

Nonetheless, the people who know stuff have said that, according to what is in the gospels (something about the shepherds keeping their sheep and what time of year that would have been), Jesus would have been born sometime in September. That christians “celebrate his birth” (buy useless stuff) around the time that pagans were celebrating saturnalia and yule (celestial/seasonal holidays) strongly suggests that the early christain church was intent upon stealing the festivities for their own uses.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1584 "2021-10-26T00:13:21Z")

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Apparel company owner found guilty of filming an ad for his company in a National Park at a time that the national parks were closed due to lockdown. Not to mention that federal property isn’t allowed to be used for commercial advertising at any time.

> **[Colorado man found guilty of violating National Forest Service regulations to...](https://www.denver7.com/news/crime/colorado-man-found-guilty-of-illegally-entering-national-forest-lands-to-promote-apparel-company)**
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> A Colorado man was found guilty of illegally entering National Forest lands last year to promote his outdoor apparel company, a U.S. District Court of Colorado judge ruled Friday.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1585 "2021-10-26T01:51:29Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Apparel company owner found guilty of filming an ad for his company in a National Park at a time that the national parks were closed due to lockdown.

Not a national park, national forest service land. NPs are managed under Interior while FS land (including national monuments) is part of USDA.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1586 "2021-10-26T01:52:41Z")

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Thanks for the correction.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1587 "2021-10-26T14:36:10Z")

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From his company’s [**website**](https://www.virtika.com/david-lesh/):

> - AKA: Lesh, Da-lesh-ay, **The Criminal**.
> - Hobbies: Skiing backwards, **eluding police** , cliff diving, mtn biking, **triggering people on the internet**.

[bolding mine]

You just can’t make this shit up.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1588 "2021-10-26T14:49:09Z")

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It’s a couple of misdemeanors but he’s definitely a dumbass.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 26, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1589 "2021-10-26T16:47:39Z")

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Two idiots for the price of none: man found with keys to a car that had been reported stolen and his phone paired with the car’s stereo. How’d he get the keys? The owner left them in the car!

> **[Bradley Police catch man with allegedly stolen car](https://wvli927.com/2021/10/26/bradley-police-catch-man-with-allegedly-stolen-car/)**
>
> Bradley Police report they were called to the 100 block of South Douglas Avenue late last week for a report of...

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