# Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 31, 2021, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945 "2021-01-31T21:25:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1670 "2021-11-11T17:07:04Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> This is Idaho. The state that has never had a shortage of “interesting” folks running for governor.

Except, are you old enough to remember the US Senator from Idaho whose name is attached to that big River of No Return wilderness area? There have been one or two non-crazy people in the state, at least in the distant past.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1671 "2021-11-11T17:10:12Z")

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Very true! I love the Frank Church Wilderness and what Frank Church did to protect wild areas.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1672 "2021-11-11T19:47:11Z")

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During one of Jerry Brown’s terms as Governor of California, music producer Mike Curb ran as a Republican to be the state’s Lieutenant Governor. This proved problematic for Brown, because he had to keep running back home to undo all of the crap Curb did.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1673 "2021-11-12T01:17:35Z")

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One of the defense attorneys in the Ahmaud Arbery case is upset that Al Sharpton attended the trial. “We don’t need any more black pastors here.” He claims Sharpton is intimidating the jury.

> **[Attorney claims Al Sharpton is 'intimidating' jury in Ahmaud Arbery...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/11/11/al-sharpton-courtroom-trial-ahmaud-arbery-murder/6389496001/)**
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> Defense attorney Kevin Gough took issue with the Rev. Al Sharpton's presence in the courtroom in the trial over Ahmaud Arbery's killing.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1674 "2021-11-12T04:50:28Z")

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Kinda like Arbery was intimidating the three defendants.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1675 "2021-11-12T09:16:43Z")

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Ah, the “menacing blackness” argument.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1676 "2021-11-12T14:16:43Z")

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In fairness, if you allow black pastors in the courtroom, then God might start paying attention to the trial. If God starts paying attention to the trial, he/she might get angry about what’s going on. According to Pat Robertson, if God gets angry, God sends hurricanes. But, again according to Pat Robertson, once God puts the hurricane in motion, he/she loses control of it. No one knows where that storm is going to hit and there might be some unborn babies in the path of that hurricane and _that_, that cannot be allowed. So, in effect, the attorney is thinking of the children, and at the end of the day isn’t that what we all want: someone to please think of the children?

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1677 "2021-11-12T17:32:10Z")

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The foregoing logical progression was brought to you by [Dr Möbius](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Ferdinand_M%C3%B6bius).

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1678 "2021-11-15T18:18:54Z")

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It may be old news, but it’s new to me: [Helen Keller: why is a TikTok conspiracy theory undermining her story? | Books | The Guardian](https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/jan/07/helen-keller-why-is-a-tiktok-conspiracy-theory-undermining-her-story)

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1679 "2021-11-15T20:17:07Z")

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> **[No Wasabi in 7-Eleven ‘Wasabi Delight’ Snacks, Lawsuit Says](https://news.bloomberglaw.com/product-liability-and-toxics-law/no-wasabi-in-7-eleven-wasabi-delight-snacks-suit-says)**
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> Convenience store chain 7-Eleven Inc. tricks consumers of its private-label 7-Select “Wasabi Delight Flavored Snack Mix,” because there is no wasabi, a new proposed class action in a New York federal court alleges.

[Real wasabi can cost $250 per kilo](https://www.businessinsider.com/wasabi-expensive-sushi-what-is-wasabi-paste-plant-2019-1) and you’re trying to sue 7-Eleven because they won’t use it? 🤣

It’s quite likely that your local sushi place isn’t using real wasabi, either! You plan to sue them, too?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1680 "2021-11-15T20:23:10Z")

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Not really seeing the stupid here. Seems to me like it’s a clear case of false advertising.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1681 "2021-11-15T20:28:36Z")

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Probably a lack of “delight” in the 7-11 snacks too. The bastards! Just don’t tell them about Girl Guide Cookies.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1682 "2021-11-15T20:37:16Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Not really seeing the stupid here. Seems to me like it’s a clear case of false advertising.

I can say with only a tiny bit of exaggeration that 100% of “wasabi” sold in the US is not real wasabi. Literally every product with “wasabi” on the label sold at every single retailer that sells wasabi flavored things contains zero wasabi.

The stupid isn’t that the 7-11 items aren’t mislabeled, it’s that anyone would expect real wasabi in something found on a store shelf. The stupid is also that 7-11 didn’t do anything wrong, shouldn’t be punished, and the litigant should have to pay out of his own pocket for this naked cash grab over a transparently trumped up complaint.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1683 "2021-11-15T20:41:03Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> The stupid isn’t that the 7-11 items aren’t mislabeled, it’s that anyone would expect real wasabi in something found on a store shelf.

Pretty much any place other than a wasabi grower, really.

> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> The stupid is also that 7-11 didn’t do anything wrong, shouldn’t be punished, and the litigant should have to pay out of his own pocket for this naked cash grab over a transparently trumped up complaint.

Bingo.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1684 "2021-11-15T20:46:13Z")

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> [@Cheesesteak](#):
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> The stupid isn’t that the 7-11 items aren’t mislabeled, it’s that anyone would expect real wasabi in something found on a store shelf. The stupid is also that 7-11 didn’t do anything wrong, shouldn’t be punished, and the litigant should have to pay out of his own pocket for this naked cash grab over a transparently trumped up complaint.

The 7-11 products may not have been mislabeled if they cleared said “contains no actual wasabi” or similar language. Anyone got a picture of the package?

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1685 "2021-11-15T20:49:48Z")

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Or they could have said “all natural wasabi flavoring” or something along those lines, assuming they were using horseradish, which I understand is the usual substitute.

I visited a wasabi farm (?) in Japan once. It is very labor-intensive to grow, and it will only grow in very pure mountain water streams. But it is certainly affordable in Japan, I wonder if the cost here is due to some kind of import duties lobbied for by Big Horseradish.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1686 "2021-11-15T21:04:40Z")

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Huh. I thought wasabi was basically just flavored horseradish. I guess what I have had is, but not true wasabi.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1687 "2021-11-15T21:04:49Z")

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Wasabi flavored sounds sufficiently ambiguous to me. Espcially if the ingredients don’t list wasabi.

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**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1688 "2021-11-15T21:06:46Z")

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This class-action version of the ambulance chaser is the attorney of record:

> **[The strawberry Pop-Tart case is just one of more than 400 lawsuits he has filed](https://www.npr.org/2021/10/30/1050175655/strawberry-pop-tarts-lawyer-spencer-sheehan-vanilla-lime-food-beverage)**
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> Attorney Spencer Sheehan has sued over not enough strawberries, little or no actual vanilla and how much lime constitutes "a hint of lime" in chips. Companies often pay to make these lawsuits go away.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-1/931945/1689 "2021-11-15T21:07:09Z")

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I generally assume any “wasabi” I eat is just regular horseradish dyed green for "effect’. As long as it tastes close enough I’m fine. Actually, I probably have never had real wasabi in my life so I don’t think I’d be able to tell. I bet the plaintiff in this case is the same.

Here is info on a pretty much identical lawsuit last year against a different organization:

> **[Is it Misleading to Sell "Wasabi Peas" if They Aren't Made With Wasabi?](https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=1c9a4d70-6a2f-4dce-b12b-b9b71188b6fe)**
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> Is it misleading to market your product as "wasabi peas" if the product isn't made with wasabi? Surprisingly, that was the issue in a recent case in…

I expect this new lawsuit to be dismissed the same way, for the same reasons as before…

> First, the court seems to say that since most “wasabi” products – including any others that the plaintiffs are likely to buy – are actually made with horseradish, the plaintiffs failed to establish they were injured by buying the defendants’ products in particular. In other words, you can’t argue that you were damaged because you chose these, as opposed to others, since you weren’t getting actual wasabi no matter what.
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> Second, the court also concluded that, because “wasabi” products are generally made from horseradish, the plaintiffs must have known that that “wasabi coated” actually meant “horseradish coated.”
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> Third, the court dismissed the notion of a “reasonable consumer” standard here and, instead, looked to the fact that the plaintiffs said that they had reviewed the packaging prior to purchasing it. The court said that, if they reviewed the packaging, they must have seen the ingredient list on the back, which didn’t include wasabi, but did include horseradish and green food coloring.

I’m guessing this new case won’t take very long.

> [@enipla](#):
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> Huh. I thought wasabi was basically just flavored horseradish.

All horseradish is flavored horseradish.

It’s all horseradish-flavored. 🙃

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